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« on: February 13, 2006, 05:22:08 AM »
CANBERRA: Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on
Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a
bid to head off potential terror attacks. A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown.

Treasurer Peter Costello hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state and its laws were made by parliament. "If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you," he said on national television. "I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia, one the Australian law and another, the Islamic law, that this is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law, and have the opportunity to go to another country which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better option," Costello said.
Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked move to the other country.

Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off". "Basically, people who
don't want to be Australians, and they don't want to live by Australian values and
understand them, well then they can basically clear off," he said.

Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he
supported spies monitoring the nation's mosques.

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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2006, 07:49:24 AM »
And apparently it is a "leadership" which does not have to answer to basic law.  This idea will not reduce terrorism - it is simple pandering to the voters.  Can you imagine what would happen if this was tried in the US?  It would never fly Constitutionally, even the new Supreme Court would not go for it.

Why bother to propose something which you know will be shot down in the US?  There are other ways to handle the basic problem of terrorism.  For one, our porous borders make the US a terrorist target paradise even without having outspoken internal extremists.  It is the quiet extremists who commit the terror attacks.   We don't need to toss out the Constitution along with the rabble.

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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2006, 09:59:47 AM »
I wish our govt would do the same thing. Come to America, become a citizen, adopt our customs, Americanize, learn and speak ENGLISH, obey our laws, or GET OUT. POWDERMAN.  :D  :D  :D  :D
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2006, 10:21:39 AM »
Sorry guys but your dreaming... I agree with Lonestar, if you wanted to be a terrorist here or in any other country the first thing you'd do is become a model citizen! This sounds like a great idea but its not going to do a thing to stop the problem... I remember my grandmother talking about all the German bundits (sp) during WW2 talking out of both sides of thier mouths... CEJ..
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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2006, 01:27:04 PM »
I agree with powderman if you read the article it said they could stay if they decided to fit in. I Totally agree if you live in America you should speak english at least in public and try to fit in. This bullcrap of coming to America and trying to make us conform to YOUR customs does not fit in my book as far as I am concerned and that has nothing to do with tossing out the Constitution!
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2006, 02:26:28 PM »
I don't think that American jurisprudence approves of stonings, beheadings, amputations, etc as does Sharia.  We don't do that here and you may not.  Like it or lump it. 8)

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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2006, 04:12:28 PM »
I have to say to that if a terrorist comes to this country the first thing they are going to do is try to blend in with other people and try not to draw any unwanted attention to themselves. They want to operate under the radar so to speak. Any college town in this country would be one ideal place. Another place would be any big city that has a diverse ethnic population. Until we completely close our borders we cannot stop the influx of terrorists to this country and even then we can't stop each and every one.
What you are asking for is a major intrusion on every day life here in this country, kinda like the Gestapo and SS. Would you constantly want to be stopped and produce your ID papers. We raise cain now about all we have to go thru at the airport to board a plane. Multiply that times ten for a picture of everyday life in the future. :?
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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2006, 06:35:02 PM »
Who said I want any thing I posted the article because I thought it was interesting but I do think that some of these muslums are trying to change our country and I do not accept that nor should you! Telling some one to conform to the rules or your ass is out of here is nothing new heck we deal with that every day in our every day lives in one form or the other we have rules for every thing these days. I see nothing wrong with telling a group of people who show up on our doors to conform to our rules or leave. We as Americans have to conform to our rules and laws so why make exceptions for foreigners who do not want to conform to them?
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« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2006, 08:28:40 AM »
I think powerman said it all. I think every one on this post about this subject said good thing. But I live in detroit one mile from dearborn mi. All the muslims that I ran into love are money but hate us. I remember going to get gas it was in the morning I was standing there were alot of black children in frt of me. When I got up to the counter the muslim said to me that he was sorry about the little n children. In  frt of me I said if thats the way you feel about blacks put a sign in the window . saying I don't want blacks money. He said I love there money but hate them! Now there belief say that they will kill us if we are not muslim. That is scary.

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« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2006, 08:48:15 AM »
After seeing all this crap on the news I just want to take my "souvenir" Saudi Arabian flag into downtown Rapid City, SD and burn it with a little gathering of like minded Rednecks like me, LOL.


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« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2006, 10:55:28 AM »
I do agree that we need to control our borders , but as far as flag burning I will not stoop to their level .
 
When mama and myself went to Mexico for our honeymoon we learned enough spanish to ask for food and to be polite , we were only there for 7 days so why con't these people that want to live here have some respect and learn to SPEAK ENGLISH .

I have no problem with someone wanting a better life for themselves but DO NOT tell me that i have to change when you are a guest in MY HOUSE .
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« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2006, 12:38:46 PM »
Quote from: stimpylu32
I do agree that we need to control our borders , but as far as flag burning I will not stoop to their level .
 
When mama and myself went to Mexico for our honeymoon we learned enough spanish to ask for food and to be polite , we were only there for 7 days so why con't these people that want to live here have some respect and learn to SPEAK ENGLISH .

I have no problem with someone wanting a better life for themselves but DO NOT tell me that i have to change when you are a guest in MY HOUSE .


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I know if  ever had to (or for some reason choose to) live in a non-english speaking country I would certainly do my best to become somewhat fluent in their language and at least somewhat formiliar with their customs just to keep my butt out of trouble if nothing else.  I'm sure that would be pretty much expected of me by the inhabitants of that country as well.
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« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2006, 12:24:58 AM »
i was walking down the iles of a supermarket one saterday afternoon when i saw a lady slip over she hit the ground prity hard. she was a moslem here husband was way ahead of here she was the one pushing the shopping troly as i have bin tought from an early age to always help a lady in distres, i went and helped here to here feet. se said thank you you are very kind here husband seeing this ran back and began to hit here around the head because
i had seen here face and she had spoken to me.well that is the one time i realy enjoyed belting some one. dont get me rong i do not look for trouble but i could not stand by and let this man hurt this woman. i told him he was in australia now and your lawes are not alowed here i got a lot of abuse thats when i hit him and said lets see how you like it sport .

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« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2006, 12:31:46 AM »
Good for you dodd3. There is absolutely no reason for a man to strike a lady regardless of what their customs are. :D
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« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2006, 12:52:43 AM »
nightrain i have i friend who is an  arrab he is a cathlic he and his wife are two of the most loving and caring people i no there chidren are a credit to them i wish there were more kids like them around. my friend and his wife left his home land because he was perscuted for being a cathlic and they say islam is peace. some of the things he has told me make my hair stand on end .he very proud of his heritige but said there is a very strong push to oust no moslems, that is from some one that is in the no.he is an ozy cit now has bin for many years, and a more dedicated ozy than than a lot of ones born here.

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« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2006, 01:18:29 PM »
dodd3

I would have been in jail at that point because he would never forget the beating he took even if i had to use the shopping cart to do it .

I have only hit a woman one time in my life and that was when i was a MP ,  had a fight call between a man and woman . When i tried to place him in cuffs she hit me with a large ashtray , the ones with the metal stand.

I do not remember hitting her but i do remember her laying flat on her back with the deer in the headlights look .  :eek:
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« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2006, 04:23:35 AM »
DODD3. Good for you Sir, I can't stand to see a man hit a woman. He sounds like typical scum. POWDERMAN.  :D  :D  :D  :D
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« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2006, 02:12:35 AM »
tm7 probebly no worse than any where else. i dont belive in abortion for the sake of it  because some one was dumb enuff  not to use protection.there is no excuse for it in this day and age, with all the birth control avalable .i might be opening a can of worms here but if you have a woman who is very ill and she already has young ones and there is more than a good chance she could die then i think it is aceptable, or a woman is raped and falls pregnant i think it is ok in those situations but no outher.thanks powderman we all no that woman in a moslem society is a second class citezen.well they are not in a christian society so if they dont like our laws they can go home because we dont wont them here.there is an old saying and i am now just seeing whot that saying is all about east is east and west is west and never the twain shall meet.
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« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2006, 03:05:25 AM »
tm7 i think the boys in crunula showed that it anit going to happen even john howard said the outher day that if they wont swear alegens and drop the gehad they had better leave.

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