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« on: February 15, 2006, 07:48:06 AM »
I will be soon getting the handi rifle in 25/06 and am planning on doing mostly coyote hunting with it and plan to use the 87 grain nosler ballistic tip . My question is will this 87 grain bullet at 3500 FPS be  ok  for deer if i decide to use it, or should i go to the 100 or 120 grain bullets. I also see that hornady has a 117 grain light magnum at over 3100 FPS. . Thanks Tanoose

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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2006, 08:52:19 AM »
85 grain ballistic tips work well. Hit them in the neck, head, heart, or lungs and you will be eating venison.

I hope you dont plan on keeping the coyote pelt.

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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2006, 09:07:01 AM »
The 85-grain BTips will "work" for smaller deer, but you'd be better advised to use the 100 or 115-grain BTip bullets.  That, or go to a bullet with heavier construction.  The 85s are varmint bullets with very light construction, and they can cause gastly surface wounds on larger game.  Even the "hunting" BTips should not be used if the impact velocity is much over 2800 fps.  That is one reason for going with the 115s, they have a lower velocity but shoot as flat and carry the needed bullet energy to long ranges.  If I were you and wanted to use just one bullet for 'yotes and deer, it would be a 100-grain bullet.

I used 100-grain BTips in my .257 Weatherby for deer on one occasion, but the two deer showed more meat damage than I wanted to see, even at 250-300 yards.  The 100-grain Partitions or X-bullets do not have that problem.

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« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2006, 09:16:44 AM »
my uncle shot a deer with a .257 wild cat loaded wih the 85 gr ballistic tip. the bullet exploded on the deer's shoulder, and was later killed by his nephew. when they field dressed it, the wound was only a flesh wound, and would not have killed the deer.
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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2006, 10:09:52 AM »
my suggestion is, if your going to shoot that light of a bullet I would get a Barnes X bullet. I would move up to 100 gr bullets and have at it!

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« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2006, 01:17:02 PM »
I shot a doe on a Crop Damage Permit with a NEF 25-06 using a 120 gr Remington Core Loct bullet . One shot - one dead doe .
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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2006, 01:38:20 PM »
I have a 25-06 ( not in handi yet) I use 75 gr hornady V-Max  on varmits and 120 grain speer sp for deer.  Deer go down no problem with that bullet.

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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2006, 06:40:33 PM »
I just picked up a box of the 100 grain partitions to load up and try in my 25-06..and plan on trying some of the xxx bullets as well....if your wanting to use a ballistic tip..the 115grain Combined Technologies BT would work well for you..I've gotten very good accuracy with them..also..FWIW...as stated in the Nosler 5th edition" The 25-06 Remington is our standard cartridges for daily production testing.It is a terrific long range varmint cartridge when loaded with our 85 grain ballistic tip,and becomes an excellent choice for deer and antelope with any of our heavier .25 caliber bullets."

I'm still working on a good load with the 110 grain Accubond as well..but the folks at Nosler like their partitions too and recommends them highly...

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« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2006, 06:52:55 PM »
well you could consider the 308,you can get 100&110 gr bullets for them pesky critters and up to what 220 gr for squirrels  lol. a lot more versatile and cheaper to shoot than the 25-06. :D
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« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2006, 09:33:42 PM »
I feel that the 25-06 is at its best with 100 grain bullets. I have used the 100 grain Ballistic tip for everything in the 25-06. I tried the 115 graines and they worked well but I couldn't see any difference in perfomance between the 100's and the 115's. Therefore I just stick to the 100 grainers.
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« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2006, 02:30:04 AM »
Thanks for all the replys i think i'll use the 87grain bullets 99%of the time and if i decide to use it on deer i'll jump to the high energy 117 or maybe the remington 120 grain psp will work to 200yds I will have to test them out this summer on some special permits we have.  I may also want to try those 100 grain barnes triple shock bullets they may work as good if not better then the heaiver bullets. Hell if i like this caliber as much as i think i will i may leave the handi strickly for coyotes and maybe rebarrel one of my bolt action 30/06's for deer to use with the heaiver bullets . Thanks again Tanoose

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« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2006, 07:28:27 AM »
I just ran across this very interesting article on a net search for the 25-06..and I thought I would share it with you all..the author makes some very good points..http://www.rifleshootermag.com/shooting_tips/accurate_be/

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« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2006, 03:53:33 PM »
I would suggest 100 grain Nosler Partitions for deer. Lots of expansion from the soft lead front and if you hit a bone it won't be stopped because of the partition. It also shoots very accurately!

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« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2006, 05:02:33 PM »
anybody want to see me and mac argue :wink:  :wink: ????? (mac's a big partitions fann)  it don't take a "tuff as nails" bullet to kill a darn deer , so long as the bullet gets in to about 8 inches of meat that deer will drop in its tracks . Now don’t go crazy and use V-max or a biltzking ( on deer, it wont work too well) but I would think that a bullet of 87 grains so long as its not a V-max should get the job done.




now before you all hang me up and castrate me let me just tell you that my deer around here arn't exactly small, deer get fat when all they do is eat, and i've shot quite a lot of them with fast expanding bullets..
curiosity killed the cat , but i was lead suspect for a while

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« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2006, 06:50:20 PM »
mitchell:

There isn't any arguments on my part..sure..a 87grain 25 caliber bullet will kill a deer..but..not all of us can walk out our backdoors and hunt..( you lucky dude :wink: )....so..we have to be prepared to take a shot from a few feet....out to 400 yards or so..and the bullet has to be made to hold together at any angle shooting thru the toughest bones.. I called a buck within a few yards of me last deer season..the only shot I could of had if I new he was legal was a dead frontal shot..would the 87 grainer kill him?..Probably..but ohh what a mess that would have been..but..if for some twist of fate..the bullet didn't penetrate and only blow 1 shoulder..I most likely wouldn't have been able to tag him..not with as many hunters was around me..and due to how thick the stuff was where I was at..I guess I'm saying..I have to prepare for most any type shot where I can hunt..and don't have the luxury of a few minutes walk back to the Jeep(or house.) to get a different rifle..sometimes it's a 3-5 mile walk depending on where I have to hunt...so..for what I have to spend on deer hunting..I'm not going to chance it to a thin skinned bullet..I wish I could..maybe someday I'll get the chance to have a sweet set up like yours and a few others..but till then..I'll  keep hedging my bet against Mr.Murphy and play it safe with bullets that will preform at all ranges... :D
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« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2006, 07:03:16 PM »
Quote from: Mac11700
..maybe someday I'll get the chance to have a sweet set up like yours and a few others



its a 12 hour drive mac help your self.



i see your point
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« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2006, 07:10:04 PM »
mitchell:

Thanks:D

Your on :wink:

Mac

Here's another interesting story about the 25-06..yup..it's another one about partitions..but just a tad heavier this time :wink: http://www.buckmasters.com/Buckmasters_Links/Classic_Buckmasters/articles/DeadlyDeer.html
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