AK Fireman Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 8:35 pm Post subject: Moose gun
I have a CZ 550/416 Rigby. Currently it is at Mcmillan for a Mcale stock and then off to Robar for a soak in the NP3. I shot about 150rds before I spotted the CRACK!
I should have It back any day and I am looking forward to shooting it again. I bought this gun after many months of researching "Big Bores", I know that the 416 is not considered a big boar to some because it is not a 45caliber or larger but after ballistic comparisons to the more common Big guns 378 weatherby, 416rem, 458, 458 lott, 460weatherby, I found that the 416 rigby can really out perform these other calibers at a range of 150yds or greater in terms of trajectory and energy this is with the now discontinued 325gr Barnes.
I know that the 416 rigby is not a gun that comes to mind when you think of long range, but I am interested in seeing how flat and how much energy can be delivered 600yrds. My drive is to have the ultimate moose gun.
Does anyone know where I can get some 325gr Barnes X / 416 cal.
Thanks for your thoughts.
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oso45-70 Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 9:52 pm Post subject: Big Bore Rigles
AK Fireman
Welcome to GBO, I think you will enjoy the comorodary (sp) here. I too shoot a 416 but its a Remington, Also shoot a 375 Weatherby and love them both. Not too sure about the 325 Bullets you were talking about but I am sure there will be some one jump in and add to the conversation, Have a good day ...............Joe...............
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Redhawk1 Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 11:21 pm Post subject:
Take a look at the 300 gr. Barnes X bullets. I took a water buffalo with my 416 Rigby at 135 yards with one shot. Unless you did not get good accuracy with the 300 gr. Barnes X I don't see why they would not be a great Moose bullet.
I also have a CZ 550 in 416 Rigby with the hogback stock. Mine is at the gunsmith getting glassbedded and free floating the barrel. I should be getting it back soon an off to the range I go.
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AK Fireman Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 4:01 am Post subject:
Ive been loading the 300gr Barnes with great results and have no doubt that this will do a great job. But with a very small sacrifice of trajectory I could gain more energy that improves with distance with the 325gr. I found this information in the 416 rigby ballistic tables of
http://www.cpcartridge.com/ Ive checked there data against my reloading books and have found them to be correct.
This is also where I was able to compare the 416 rigby against some other large calibers and was surprised at how well this unbelted case that has the reputation of being a less than hot round do to low chamber pressure. Check out the muzzle energy and down range energy of the 325gr, also look at the velocity/drop starting at 300yds and compare it to the lighter 300gr Barnes. I can't find a caliber with as good, across the board ballistics.
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Redhawk1 Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 7:20 am Post subject:
AK Fireman, contact Barnes and ask them if they can make you some. I know in the past if you have a minimum order of 500 they will make you some. It would not hurt to call them. Barnes has been very good about that in the past.
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gwindrider1 Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 10:50 am Post subject:
But be prepared to write a very large check! lol!
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Redhawk1 Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 4:24 pm Post subject:
gwindrider1 wrote:
But be prepared to write a very large check! lol!
No matter who you go to, it is going to cost if you want them to make it for you.
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AK Fireman Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 7:14 pm Post subject:
I talked with
http://www.lostriverballistic.com/ They will design a 325gr J36 for $75.00 and a minimum order of 200rds. Not a bad deal, but I have read some negative things about there bullets, I'll probably order some of there 350gr that they claim will shoot 3000 fps at the muzzle, just to see how the J36 shoots.
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45north Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 6:07 am Post subject:
Well it sounds to me like you want to snipe some swamp donkey by sitting on top of a hill and waiting for the bull to pass by. In the olden days they used to walk around in the woods or float the rivers for moose but that was called hunting.
If you want a real long range moose gun then I would look at a 50 cal BMG.
45north
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Redhawk1 Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 8:35 am Post subject:
45north wrote:
Well it sounds to me like you want to snipe some swamp donkey by sitting on top of a hill and waiting for the bull to pass by. In the olden days they used to walk around in the woods or float the rivers for moose but that was called hunting.
If you want a real long range moose gun then I would look at a 50 cal BMG.
45north
I don't see a thing wrong with him wanting to use a 416 Rigby.
