Have just started loading for my 6.8 SPC T/C rifle barrel. First load I tried was 21 grains of Lil' Gun with a 90 grain HP from Speer. Almost touching bullet holes at fifty yards (max range at home). Moved up to 22.7, listed as max...too hot..expanded primer pocket..sooo..will stay at 21 grains..explosive bullet. look out crows and coyotes..