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Offline hankbrass

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Compensator effectiveness?????
« on: February 19, 2006, 01:02:15 PM »
Quite awhile back I read a post of a fellow wondering if a 16" non-comp. 7-30W barrel would recoil worse than his 14" Hunter barrel with comp. 7-30WSeveral replies were posted and all agreed he would not notice much increase in recoil and it would be a whole lot easier on his ears.
I just rough sighted my beautiful 16" barrel in and have discovered that is a bunch of hooey! The 16" barrel has a marked increase in muzzle jump as well as a very pronounced increase in rearward recoil impulse. I will not try to put a % on the increase as recoil is a subjective thing but I noticed that after 6 shots with the 16 incher I got nervy and had to take my finger off the trigger and breath some to avoid a flinch. With the 14" comped barrel I NEVER had that happen! I am quite sure I will accustom myself to the 16" quickly and be able to shoot it longer so I am not freaked out by this but when the weather warms up and I get serious about seeing what accuracy potential it has I will be looking to send it off for a comp to be addded. I can't see putting up with more recoil when I don't have to!

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Compensator effectiveness?????
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2006, 03:01:06 PM »
Yeah, why bother beating yourself up. I have heard that comps and tamers that are designed properly only increase muzzle blast volume to the sides and that the shooter will not be likley to tell the difference, somebody next to you might appreciate it if you give him a heads up.
Allthough I have shot a M4 carbine with certain type of muzzlebrake and hearing protection was a must. That thing made the "hardest" shooter in our bunch give it back and say "no thanks."

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Muzzle Brakes - Effective - Oh Yeah
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2006, 05:13:11 AM »
Hankbrass,

Muzzle Brakes do increase the noise, but they do reduce recoil considerably.  I’ve heard people say that you have to wear hearing protectors with a muzzle brake.  We should always wear hearing protectors.  While hunting, it is a choice.  I use electronic muffs.  

I have 4 barrels with muzzle brakes and I can’t shoot them without the break.  I also, have one 7-30 waters with the Muzzle Tamer.  The muzzle tamer does not work as efficiently as a Daryl Holland Muzzle Brake or the custom made Van Horn.  I have two of each. Plus I have one muzzle tamer.

I shoot twice a week and sometimes on Saturdays.  The Contenders and Encores are my primary firearms.  I shoot over 200 rounds a week and sometimes more.  We shoot from 200 to 500 meter silhouettes with our TC Handguns.

I can’t say which brake reduces the recoil the most, but the amount of recoil is reduced up to 70% by both Daryl Holland and the Van Horns.  The muzzle tamer reduces muzzle rise, but the recoil comes straight back in your hand. Painful!!!!!

My 7-30 Waters is a factory barrel.  I have fired it, but I’m working up reduced loads to minimize the recoil.

I have a 308 Winchester Van Horn Custom barrel and I shoot a 180 grain bullet in it.  The recoil is nearly zero.  I am older than most and my wrists can’t take any more punishment.  I have to shoot 22s or use muzzle brakes.  I shoot the heavy bullets to take Rams at 500 meters and that increases the recoil considerable.

I have a buddy that has been shooting with me for over 5 years (we are retired).  He bought a 7-30 Waters barrel from Bullberry about 4 years ago.  He tried every bullet weight down to a 120 grain and up to a 162 Amax Hornady.  He put a Daryl Holland Brake on it and now it is very tolerable.

I have another friend that has a 7mm BR custom SSK barrel from J D Jones and Company.  It is a standard Encore configuration with a muzzle brake similar to the Muzzle Tamer.  There again, the muzzle rise is nearly eliminated, but it kicks like a jackass and he is trying to sell it.

Another brake that works great, but is even noisier is the J P Howitzer Brake.  I have one that I took off of a factory Encore barrel and replaced with a Daryl Holland.  It is probably the most effective brake on the market.  E A Brown Company carries them and installs them.

Shooting neighbors:  I have a friend that has an 18.5” barrel with a Howitzer Muzzle Tamer and it is a 6.5 mm WSSM caliber.  This is definitely not neighborly.  The one I had on my 308 barrel was not as bad as the WSSM.  The Holland and Van Horn brakes are very neighborly.

Harold Clark

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Muzzle Brakes
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2006, 05:18:33 AM »
When I first got got into Contenders I had a 10" 30-30 that I hated to shoot.
  After I sold it I ran into a 14" 30-30 hunter. "BANG!" Great. I'ts a gun it's going to be loud. So what? I started trading & selling till I have nothing but muzzle brakes on all of my larger (longer) barrles.
 
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16 " 7-30 Waters contender
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2006, 09:21:31 AM »
Hey, Hankbrass

If you would like to trade your 16 for a 14" with muzzle tamer, let me know.  

I have been looking for a 16" to put a Holland Muzzle brake on.

Harold Clark