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Rebluing the 760
« on: February 20, 2006, 06:36:42 AM »
I have a Remington 760 that is rather old but still shoots well. However it really doesn't look very good after so many years of hunting and I'd like to redo it. I probably can handle refinishing the stock and forearm but I am concerned about re-bluing it, and I am open to as many suggestions as I can get, if your people don't mind giving them.

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« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2006, 01:25:48 PM »
I have also thought about refinishing my old M760.  Most of the bluing is gone around the magazine well.  I have looked at the options, do it myself or have a shop do it.  I am sure there are many processes.  OXYNATE 7 is the most expensive I have looked at and seems to require a professional to do it right and have the proper setup for doing the job.  The handling of the bluing salts requires careful handling and proper disposal of the remaining bluing salts.  Other options are Teflon-Moly finish, Parkerize, and Gun-kote.  

Gunsmithing rates for Teflon-Moly and Parkerize finishes seem to be a lot lower then the OXYNATE 7 process.  Years ago I had a firearm with an unknown brand of Teflon finish.  A gun shop had put on the finish in generous amounts.  The amount applied to the action tube assembly was too thick.  This created friction during the pumping action.

From what I have read the Teflon-Moly finish may not cause this problem.  I am considering the Parkerized finish or the Teflon-Moly finish for my M760 because it is a working gun, not a display piece.

Another option is Birchwood Casey bluing kits.  I have seen one rifle completely done with a Birchwood Casey product.  I have no idea how that product holds up in the field.

http://www.brownells.com/aspx/ns/store/catsearch.aspx?c=743&p=3948

http://www.brownells.com/aspx/ns/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=1143&title=AEROSOL+BAKING+LACQUER


http://www.birchwoodcasey.com/sport/
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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2006, 01:34:38 AM »
Thanks Siskiyou, Mine also is really a hunting piece and I sure would not want to mess up the pumping action. I'm even a little spooky about the screwing up the accuracy if I dismantle the whole thing to do the blueing and stock refinishing. But all the finishes are getting pretty tired because it has seen so much use over the years.

However, at least you have given me a place to start which I appreciate.

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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2006, 06:40:07 AM »
Many years back I refinshed the wood on my M760.  I was happy with the out come then and I am still pleased with it because it has held up from field use.

The biggest cost was time.  I considered it a good investment and enjoyed the project.  I applied Birchwood Casey True Oil.  A low cost project that was rewarding.

The project was successfull enough that I just finished the stock on a Savage 110.  This great rifle is over thirty years old.  It is my #2 goto rifle after the M760.  The finish was shot and it was past time to do something.  I went to the gunsmithing topics on this forum to update my knowledge base.  Clearly there is a big jump in doing a good job and just plain passion for the project.  Having the liberty of having no kids in the house and a garage to work in this time I spent more time on the project.  I put more coats on the 110 stock and allowed more curing time between coats.  The stock came out looking too great.  I am thinking about putting a thin coat of floor wax on the stock and not polishing it to dull it during hunting season.  The first scrape is going to hurt.  In this case I used Birchwood Casey Tru-oil.

The effect on M760 accuracy.  There was none.  I did not disasseble the rifle.  I protect the near by metal surface with masking tape.  I had sanded the old finsh off the wood but had not put the new finsh on when a couple of guys came up the mountain and wanted to sight in their new Remington M742 autoloaders.   They took a break and I pulled out my bare wood M760 and put three 130 grains bullets on the target from my hand loaded ammuntion.  A dime basically covered them.  Those guys went away with hurt feelings like they had been setup. :eek:

I encourage you to re-finsh your rifle.  

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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2006, 12:18:13 PM »
qajaq59  It seems as gun owners we're never happy with what we have.  If its new, cowboy shooters want it tumbled and aged to look worn and slick,  if worn and slick then get it refinished.  Personally, a gun that has earned its strips has aquired a state of grace that shouldn't be messed with.   The look of this gun says "i'm a real hunter, no safe queen I".  I've earned the right to wear every one of these dings and nicks.  They are badges of honor.  Just a thought
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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2006, 12:48:26 AM »
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qajaq59 It seems as gun owners we're never happy with what we have.


Boy, are you right about that. ha ha

And I'm the same way about my reloads. I'll spend all kinds of time working up a perfect load. But then, once I find it, I'll put 20 in a box for later on, and then immediately go searching for a different one. It's just the nature of the beast I guess.

Oh, and by the way, we get even worse once we retire and have more time to play.

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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2006, 02:08:15 PM »
qajaq  Tell me about it.  At 58 I pulled the pin last June.  Now I get to do all the things i always wished i could when i worked.  Still just as busy but no paycheck, but loving it.
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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2006, 04:04:20 PM »
Last hunting season kicked me into gear when it came to refinishing the stock on the 110.  I have collected a goodly number of deer with it over the last thirty plus years.  The rifle is a trusted friend.  But it reminded me of a large group of old shotguns and .22 rifles standing against a crowded corner in a local sporting goods store.  They are well worn from use.  The finish on the wood is not very good and the blueing is gone.  Most of them are at least 50 years old. And nobody wants them because they do not look nice.  The young guy who carried them duck hunting grew old.  He cared for the shotgun, but then there was nobody who cared.  It was sold at an estate sale for a few dollars.

I thought about one of my neighbors who is in his middle 80's and on his third wife.  He had out lived the first two.  He told me how great of woman his second wife was but cancer took her.  He had out lived his son, and other then his current wife he has nobody.  If he goes his possession could land anywhere.  Old women show up every day at police stations and Sheriffs offices asking for them to dispose of firearms left by their husbands.

It crossed my mined that the experts had me in an early retirement program because most guys do not live five years beyond retirement from my old job.  Some of my friends are already gone.  One of them at fifty-six.  

I decided that if my rifle went that way it would desirable enough for a place up on the display rack, and not rusting and gathering dust in the corner.  A couple of friends now have more deer rifles then they ever imaged.  Grandfathers, uncles, and fathers have passed rifles on to them as they grew told old to hunt or they have passed away.  

I recieved a 30-06 that belonged to my father-in-law and some years later it became my son-in-laws first deer rifle.  There was one condition, he was to keep it in the family.

I refinshed the wood on my rifle for less then ten dollars.
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« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2006, 12:50:36 AM »
I know how you guys feel. We retired 5 years ago, sold the house, bought a motor home and we have traveled the country ever since. And the USA is a marvelous country to travel.

In the winter we come back to Florida where I reload and shoot a lot, when not kayaking or fishing. And for once in my life I really have the time to relax and spend all the time at the range that I need to get the loads right. I bring several rifles and a pile of various loads and spend hours just slowing firing and taking notes. It's a tough life but someone has to do it. ha ha ha

That's one reason I'm thinking about re-doing some of my rifes. I finally have the time it will take to do them right.

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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2006, 09:39:23 AM »
If I may come back to the subject?  I have a Winchester 88 which I ruined the collector's value on by having the Black-T finish applied by Birdsong & Associates.  This was done in 1992.  The rifle has seen field use every year since then in our very wet SE Alaska rain forest.  The only cleaning I have to do is to maintain the bore, because the outfit which did it stripped every screw and spring off and did them also.  It is great stuff, if applied correctly.  I do put a layer of Turtle wax on once a year for the heck of it, do the wood too.

I had a NEF and Ruger Blackhawk done with the next generation of teflon finish, and that wore through in spots within a year.  The difference was that the Winchester was bead blasted and Parkerized prior to having the Teflon applied.  The others were just bead blasted.  I talked to a gunsmith about it and he said he had done it both ways and the Parkerizing made for a much more durable finish.

One unintended advantage was that the notoriously poor trigger of the 88 became a lot smoother!

I am sold on the stuff if done right.  I don't think you will regret it if you have your rifle refinished this way.

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