Great, now I'm a liar.
"Foggy recollections"? How do you know what the quality of my recollections are? I've never said they were in the distant past or that I don't remember these experiences well.
You asked me to show you where you denigrated my experiences? How about where you said all I know is that some guy blew up some meat? Sounds like belittling my first hand knowledge to me.
Reading comprehension time: "uses" is the present tense of the verb "to use". My father "used" a 7mm Mag in the past. He doesn't anymore. Consequently, no I know presently "uses" a 7MM Mag. That doesn't mean I don't know anyone who has used a 7MM Mag. I do. But he doesn't use it presently. No one I know presently uses the caliber in my neck of the woods. Why? Experiences like his get told around and people shy away from things that haven't worked so well for people they know.
So "which is it", you ask?
Well, maybe if you bothered to ask instead of implying I am a liar, maybe you'd have known.
As for loads, as I have said several times now, I believe it is possible to choose a loading that would overcome these issues. However, I don't want to get into premium bullets, which we can't find readily up here, nor do I want to handload. My father used a standard Remington 140 grain bullet, which moves out at about 3200 ft. per second and which impacts at just about that velocity 50 yards later. Three hits, three blowups. He now uses a .450 Marlin. Yeah, I know, I know - overgunned. He says he is just too old to track anymore and the Marlin lays them down right where they are hit.
Apparently, you are rich enough to never have to worry about putting meat on the table so you can wait for the perfect shot. People up by me don't hunt for the experience, as you seem to. They hunt for meat, to supplement a skimpy budget without having to go on the dole. You can look down your nose at them all you want but when you are done feeling superior, just remember that not everyone is as lucky as you.
I just find it fascinating that you and NONYA are so intent that I be shouted down that between the two of you, you've claimed I'm a liar, claimed my experience is not as good as your, implied I'm some sort of redneck hick who doesn't know better, etc. Do you guys own stock in a ammo maker or something? Or is it you just can't stand another person having an opinion that is different from your own?
To top it all off, this was all died down until you decided to come back on after three days and start the ruckus all over again by getting in some digs on me. Like I said, I think you were looking for a fight all along because someone dared disagree with you regarding your pet gun and this pretty much confirms it. Why else stir the pot as you have?
The really odd part about all this is that I participate a lot in the religion forums on this site. The people there are uniformly more adult in their discussions than what I've experienced on this thread. I suspect that is because in those forums, people actually want to know what others think instead of just shouting down someone who disagrees with them. When religion is less of a touchy issue than what gun someone uses, that is just plain odd.
I've learned my lesson, though, and will stay there from now on. Too many unpleasant people to have to deal with here.
