why dont people use...

[Mac11700]

Nonya:

It is sad situation..I don't think anyone here is advocating the 50 bmg for hunting..but mearly advocating a persons right to choose for themselves...to live by their own standards or ethics if you will.There is enough laws on the books covering just about everything dealing with our sport.We don't need anymore...

Mac

[corbanzo]

I think that it does have a place in some sorts of hunting.  Though others may not, it's all in what you use it for.  I once shot a grouse from 10 yards with a .22mag and blew it almost in half.  So now, hunting with a .22mag is not responsible, and none of you are allowed to do it.  It's all about the range you want to hunt from, what you are hunting, and the accessablity in the area that you are in.

[NONYA]

If you had used solid instead of hollow points in the 22 mag it wouldnt have done that kind of damage. :roll:

[corbanzo]

It was a solid, just too close, from farther away they do fine, just like the BMG can.

[Don Fischer]

Yea NONYA it would have. I've experienced the same thing with 22 mag solids. I didn't think they would do it either.

[field989]

not to get anybody mad or anything I was just curious on why some of the people that go to africa to hunt large and dangerous game don't use a .50 bmg instead of some of those huge rifles some of them carry around :grin:

not about hunting deer or anything in america with it just those dangerous game animals?

hope this didn't make anyone mad :grin:

[nomosendero]

field989
Go back to the first part of this thread, in particular the comments from
Redhawk & you will see that this has been answered.

A whole list of reasons: Size, weight of gun, noise & blast even if you have ear protection, guides etc. Not a logical choice.

[NONYA]

Well then i guess shot placement would make all the difference,22 mag..head shot only! :grin:

[lefteyedon]

Lets allow 50 BMG for deer, elk, bear, and goats. But limit the wieght of the rifle to say ummm 71/2 pounds. That should correct any problem ether side see with the other.
GR

[James B]

I am waiting for it to come out in the Encore. :grin: . Or Maybe the Big Smith revolver. :wink:

[jro45]

A 50 Cal. BMG is for destroying material mostly.

[MGMorden]

Lets allow 50 BMG for deer, elk, bear, and goats. But limit the wieght of the rifle to say ummm 71/2 pounds. That should correct any problem ether side see with the other.
GR

That's a backdoor loophole, which is the same crap that gun grabbers try all the time (and wrongly so).

Don't consider using a .50BMG sporting?  Fine, that's your perogative.  Of course, I can't count the times I've heard people ridicule others who use a magnum of any kind while deer hunting.  Maybe we should ban magnum cartridges too?  And of course, I would wager that the wooden stick/spear has taken more game throughout history than any other weapon combined.  No sense in using the new fancy-shmancy projectile weapons.  A REAL hunter will sneak up close enough to is prety to stick it.

Obvious sarcasm aside, you have to put away the desire to legislate away things you don't like.  I'm sure you wouldn't see a problem with a person who doesn't particularly like guns right?  Not an anti, just a person who prefers not to go shooting.  I mean, I don't particularly like motorcyles for example, but what makes the anti's so bad is that instead of just not liking something and not taking part in it, they try to stop others from doing it too.  If we allow ourselves down this road, then we're behaving just like the anti's, just with a different set of likes and dislikes.

You see the same thing happen with all sorts of things; guns, pornography, video games, alchohol, tobacoo, television content, etc.  Heck a lot of people outside the industry don't know it but AOPA (Airplane Owners and Pilots Association, basically the equivalent of the NRA as far as aviation goes) is constantly having to fight legal battles over people wanting to close down or restrict airports and/or general aviation over noise concerns or fears that somebody will fly an airplane into a building (nevermind that the small planes most GA pilots fly would do less damage to a building than a car hitting it - it's all about people's fears).  

Best quote I ever heard was as follows (not sure on the exact wording): "In order for any of use to truly be free we have to accept that a LOT of people all over the place are doing things that we really don't like.".

To act otherwise is to have only things liked by the majority of people be legal (and given than less than 10% of the population hunts, I doubt that's a good road to go down).

[corbanzo]

It is a slippery slope with the ATF or any other regulation making body out there.  You give an inch, they take a mile.  When HUNTERS AND SHOOTERS are recommending the regulation of firearms and certain cartridges, that is just more ammo for their fight for total control over every gun in existance - or the destruction of those.  We know how it works, because of course, the ones who want these regulations voice their opinions more often.  We have the reason, they have the microphone.
We all know what the second amendment says, "shall not be infringed", and they say... to a point.  So it went from shall not be infringed, to, shall not be infringed except so and so.  And more keeps getting added to that list of exceptions.  Do we as shooters really want to add more?  I mean, open mouth, insert foot here.
And I think it's funny that you are talking about getting hit with a stray .50bmg, or .338 lapua.  ANY bullet from ANY gun is going to hurt, a lot, and you are going to bleed, a lot, and wish it didnt happen, a lot.  Instead of talking about the .50 being dangerous, why don't you talk about humans being dangerous?  We all know the rules - if you don't have a proper backdrop, and clear field of view, you don't take the shot.  .50BMG...  .38 special, I don't wanna get hit with either one.  Remember the quote?  Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
I am going to hunt until the day I die, and I am going to hunt safely, and I am going to hunt within the limits of sanity.  So say I want to take a 1200yards shot at a goat, and I take out my .30-06... do you get where this is going?  With the BMG, I can then take that shot, and actually hit my target.  At that range, it will drop the target, and not destroy the meat.  And I can pick a bullet that will be good for hunting, not for metal.  

http://froogle.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=46169320

OH NO!!  That's a .30-06 Armor piercing round, so we aren't allowed to use the 06 for hunting anymore?  That might piss a lot of people off.  I don't have a .50BMG... yet, and I guarantee, when I get one, I'm going to want to kill an animal with it.  I want every gun I own to have at least one animal on it.  One of those... gun, memory, worth, sentimental, accomplishment, something type of things, I dunno.    

And by the way, you can get a serbu .50BMG carbine running at 17lbs.

[Redhawk1]

A 50 Cal. BMG is for destroying material mostly.

It is obvious you have never researched the uses of a 50 BMG. It is the lack of understanding of such a round that has people making statements like that.  :roll:

[msorenso]

MGMorden,
Well put!!!!