Primers

[Mullet]

I purchased a 100 pack of Winchester Large Rifle Primers and loaded 20 rounds of 30-06 with 62.1 grains of Reloader 19 behind 165 grain Nosler partitions. Trouble is I did not realize until after 20 rounds that I had purchased magnum primers by mistake.
Question is are these rounds safe to fire. Rifle is an NEF SB2 Handi Rifle so the gun is plenty strong and I really don't want to pull all those bullets if I don't have to.
 Thanks in advance.

[PaulS]

Mullet,
If the rounds are extracting easily, aren't showing signs of primer flattening, or any other signs of excessive pressure then why pull them? Are they as accurate as your other loadings? what is it that makes you wonder if they are safe?

PaulS

[Howler]

I purchased a 100 pack of Winchester Large Rifle Primers and loaded 20 rounds of 30-06 with 62.1 grains of Reloader 19 behind 165 grain Nosler partitions. Trouble is I did not realize until after 20 rounds that I had purchased magnum primers by mistake.
Question is are these rounds safe to fire. Rifle is an NEF SB2 Handi Rifle so the gun is plenty strong and I really don't want to pull all those bullets if I don't have to.
 Thanks in advance.

 I would say you exceeded the max load by over 1GR. The strength of the action is 1 thing, but what about case strength? what about Head space? Definition for head space- the distance from the face of the bolt / reciever to what ever retards the forward movement of the case! which is the shoulders in this case. I have never seen a time when exceeding the max listing got me much in return. I would start over & follow instuctions.

[I am CAL.........]

Hey Mullet, Ya might be alright this time but you might not so for my two cents I would pull every thing and start over.I strickly stay with the book no matter what. What you are risking is far greater than the extra work.Good luck,I am CAL....

[Mullet]

Thanks fellas.  The reason I wondered if the loads are safe is because I've heard that the magnum primers are like adding a grain or so to the charge and I'm maxed on the charge now.  The brass is fire formed to the rifle so head space won't be a problem.  Its not the extra work that is stopping me from pulling them it's that I don't have a good puller and I don' want to scar up those Noslers cause there a bit pricey but it looks like thats what I may need to do.  Thanks for the input.

[445supermag]

Get a short 2x4 drill a hole larger than billet through 2x4 then drill hole larger to size of the body of 06. Set in loaded round wack on floor a coupel of times and the bullit will come out.

[Mullet]

Thanks Supermag I'll give that a try.  Guess I need to invest in a kinetic puller.

[Howler]

If you have a drill press this will work to pull bullets or trim cases. Buy the lee trimmer for your caliber, it comes with lock stud, shell holder,case length gauge & cutter. Get ya a piece of 1/8" steel plate about 4"x4" or  so & drill a hole just large enough for the stud on the lock stud to go through. Run the stud through the plate & weld a bead on the bottom.Clamp the plate to the table of your drill press(must be alighned properly of course)put the shell holder on the stud & lock your case in. lower the ram of the press down & chuck your bullet up in the press, now when you raise the ram the bullet will be pulled if you chucked it tight enough. Will also trim! Useing the stop on the my press allows me to trim square & to within 0.002 in accuracy when set up properly. I like to cutt the length & diameter of the case length gauge to the length of the neck & slightly smaller in diameter so not to gall the inside of the necks when trimming. The length must be cutt anyhow because it centers on the flash hole of the case which wont allow cutter to lower. Simple way to cutt the length gauge is chuck it in the drill press, determine length needed,mark it, start press & stick a hacksaw blade to it. After you cutt to length, cutt the diameter down with a stone the same way.

[Ross]

You have experienced no signs of excess pressure.  Go out on a not too warm day and shoot for group.
Magnum primers do not always produce significantly higher pressures or velocities;  they characteristically have a longer duration of flame to ignite hard to ignite powders.
Cheers from Grayest California,
Ross

[Lead pot]

Mullet-Your playing with chopsticks with that load.62.1 of RL 19 is a little warm,than add that Win mag.primer which is about the hotest primer you can get,which will add about a nother grain or 1 gr or 1 1/2 to that load,and a little heat from the sun  :shock:  :eek: :gulp:  :bird:     Lp.

[Mullet]

Well curiosity got the better of me so I test fired a round.  It did flatten the primers a bit but no other pressure signs apparent.  I'm still gonna bust those loads down though because the Noslers arte just too expensive to waste.  One thing I'm finding a bit confusing about max loads is that one source for load data does not match al others which seems a bit strange to me.  As you can see fromn the other posts (and I have varified) Nosler list the max load at 61.2 of Reloader 19 while Alliant (the powder maker) lists 62.1 grains for that bullet.  Now I would think that the powder maker would be the more accurate but who knows.  Using CCI BR-2 primers which is what I use almost exclusivly there are no pressure signs and I get the best accuracy (bullet seated .003 off the lands).  Generally I get better accuracy with full case charges and try to select powders that give me that.  In 30-06 60 grains +.
It was just the mag primers that worried me.  Thanks fellas

[Howler]

Considering you could destroy your rifle & possibly do fatal harm to your self from a mere temperature change, I would stay with the components listed & use the more conservative load. Most every loading book will tell you any time you change a component to reduce the load & work back to max safe.