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Offline AndyHass

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Are most Remington shells STS?
« on: March 13, 2006, 02:50:07 PM »
I have a bunch of Remington hulls, but haven't found out how to tell if they are the STS I have so much reloading info about.  Are basically all Remington factory trap/small game loads in STS's?

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Are most Remington shells STS?
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2006, 07:24:33 PM »
Andy, the smooth somewhat shiny cases are STS while the ribbed green cases tend to be Gun Club, or Game hulls. Not the same hulls but generally loaded the same. Check your powder/load book as most manufacturers have tables describing what hulls are equivalent for loading purposes. For most powders, STS and Gun Club hulls typically can be loaded using the same data.

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STS Hulls
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2006, 04:16:29 AM »
The STS are the metellic green ones. I use the STS hulls interchangeably with my Winchester AA recipes. I would switch to STS hulls but they are not as available as AA hulls where I shoot. I get less defective loads from the STS hulls as compared to the new AA hulls.
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Are most Remington shells STS?
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2006, 08:46:58 PM »
Remington STS, and Nitro27 hulls, are considered by many to be "the" hull to get your hands on for reloading. The Gun Clubs are right up there in the same league, but tend to get frazzled a little sooner. Is frazzled a word? :-)  I mean of course, that the hull end seems to get a bit crispy after 6 reloads, where the STS and Nitro27 hulls seem to last, and last, 8-10+ reloads is not unusual. Some of the Gun Clubs also have a steel base, and may not be as smooth on the resizeing die, as the brass, or brass washed hulls.

They are all a one piece hull, which makes them safer from the standpoint, that you can never shoot out the basewad, as the new style AA-HS have been rumored to have happen. I think Winchester has made some changes to the HS hull, to prevent this, but they are still a pain to load (compared to the Rem hull), with thier creasing, and buckling. :roll:

Load data for AA vs Rem hulls is almost interchangeable, BUT, if you look at load data for Red Dot powder, you'll see the pressure in the Rem hull for some reason (even with all other components being the same) seem higher than the AA hull. I load Clays powder, and use the exact same load in either hull, with no problems. :-)
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Re: STS Hulls
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2006, 03:52:27 AM »
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The STS are the metellic green ones. I use the STS hulls interchangeably with my Winchester AA recipes. I would switch to STS hulls but they are not as available as AA hulls where I shoot. I get less defective loads from the STS hulls as compared to the new AA hulls.


These are actually black hulls...

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Are most Remington shells STS?
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2006, 03:59:35 AM »
I like those Remington black field load hulls. They are made exactly like the old RXP from many moons ago but the plastic won't hold up as well. I usually get 3-6 loads from them but I also often load them past when I should have tossed them. I'll usually end their life shooting skeet and just leave them laying or might toss them in a trash can depending on range policy.


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