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« Reply #30 on: March 28, 2006, 06:09:26 PM »
Sorry don't buy into the family tree B.S.
Bust one in a New York minute, or sooner, all I want is a clear shot.
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« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2006, 07:38:43 PM »
Being the non believer in the bigfoot legend as I still am until I see evidence to change it I'd be VERY CONCERNED that what I was pointing a gun at might turn out to be a hoaxer in a costume. Personally I'm of the opinion that more of that is still going on today than any of us realizes. You guys who say you've seen one are convinced it's a real "other than human in disguise" creature and while that might be I'd sure be hesitant personal to drop the hammer on one too fast.

I'm thinking the result of doing so and then finding it was in fact a human in a costume is gonna go a long way further against you than you bigfoot guys think it will. Personally if I were on a jury in such a case I'd be able to see only Murder One in it. You intentionally shot to kill and the "thing" you shot was a human. That you thought it to be other to me is a useless argument.

However I realize that those who are certain they have seen a real honest to goodness bigfoot and not someone in costume would be looking at this from a whole different perspective than me as regard dropping the hammer. My skepticism would prevent me from shooting unless I was convinced my life was in danger and then it really wouldn't matter what the creature was lying on the ground to include a human as long as I acted in defense of my life in a situation any sane person would agree was just that.


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« Reply #32 on: March 28, 2006, 07:46:53 PM »
If you do not understand something, the best policy is to blow the crap out of it. :roll: :biggun:

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« Reply #33 on: March 29, 2006, 12:58:01 AM »
Tha majority of these guys who "hunt" bf are looking for a payday and nothing else,they have no real intrest in the species,as it would be the rarest animal ever found if it was and they all want to put a bullet in it and make thier millions. :roll:
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« Reply #34 on: March 29, 2006, 02:26:50 AM »
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Tha majority of these guys who "hunt" bf are looking for a payday and nothing else,they have no real intrest in the species,as it would be the rarest animal ever found if it was and they all want to put a bullet in it and make thier millions. :roll:


NOW that is just plain wrong!  If you cruise most of the BF sites I think you'll find many more who don't want to kill one just come back with proof.  Unfortunately, there are those (who might they be?) who just would never let it rest until they had a corpse thrust into their face!  Perhaps, no.......... IT IS the skeptics that make the actual killing of a BF neccessary to prove it's exsistance!  You've made yourself perfectly clear on that one!

I think the majority of the researchers genuinely want to find a new species...... either that or they want an excuse to get out of the house and away from the wife..... :)  :eek:  :)  :D

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« Reply #35 on: March 29, 2006, 02:36:26 AM »
1 legit photograph or piece of video would be enough for me to consider it,I have been to your BF sites and the discusion of money comes up EVERY time they talk about getting a body and you know it,ask around see how many of your "experts" would be willing to donate the body to science if they got one...LOL...none of em. :roll:
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« Reply #36 on: March 29, 2006, 03:17:24 AM »
Gentlemen, I don't know about anyone else, but I was taught not to point a gun unless I was absolutely sure what I was looking at.
So shooting a hoaxer in the woods is unlikely.
I don't take sound shots like some people admitted to on this forum.
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« Reply #37 on: March 29, 2006, 04:57:06 AM »
Gentlemen :D

    I would like to add a fact and law to those that go on Public land for hunting bigfoot at night, or day, or any game period. Here in Oklahoma---all hunting season`s of any game is closed----except coyote, and predators, ---unless they are of the furbearers Kind. Coyote is a furbearer, but is also considered a nuisance. So therefore, open for hunting year round.

   To be on public hunting is illegal if it is at night. That is if you have a weapon, on you are in your vehicle. I have notified the game ranger of this area, and he will prosecute.

be warned.

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« Reply #38 on: March 29, 2006, 05:30:16 AM »
that would make for an interesting episode of court tv! :eek:
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« Reply #39 on: March 29, 2006, 09:23:40 AM »
Sorry the ranger is a pretty understanding guy especially with the meth labs in that area.
If he knows you there won't be any trouble.
Besides both of them know what I'm up to.
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« Reply #40 on: March 29, 2006, 09:33:11 AM »
Go to the ODWC website (www.wildlifedepartment.com) and (under FAQ) you'll see an "official" department comment that says basically; "...contrary to popular reports, there are no Bigfoot in Oklahoma..." so how does one be in violation for "hunting" something which doesn't "officially" exist in the first place.  After all would our government lie to us?

Besides a CCL entitles the holder to possess a handgun for self-defense purposes.
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« Reply #41 on: March 29, 2006, 09:37:53 AM »
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Sorry the ranger is a pretty understanding guy especially with the meth labs in that area.
If he knows you there won't be any trouble.
Besides both of them know what I'm up to.


I just talked to the man, and he says dont have a gun. then their will be no problem.

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« Reply #42 on: March 29, 2006, 09:40:43 AM »
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Go to the ODWC website (www.wildlifedepartment.com) and (under FAQ) you'll see an "official" department comment that says basically; "...contrary to popular reports, there are no Bigfoot in Oklahoma..." so how does one be in violation for "hunting" something which doesn't "officially" exist in the first place.  After all would our government lie to us?

Besides a CCL entitles the holder to possess a handgun for self-defense purposes.



Read you Okla, game regulations.  As far as the CCL, it has to be concealed. And again, no wepons on public hunting land. so that takes care of the CCL clause.

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« Reply #43 on: March 29, 2006, 10:03:24 AM »
You guys with your research and ideas,if someone did kill a specimen of the rarest species in the US you would end up in jail the minute they caught up to you and siezed your "payday",doubt it?i dont! :D
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« Reply #44 on: March 29, 2006, 10:35:28 AM »
Drag it's hairy butt to the nearest television station for an exclusive before anyone can seize you or it. Public opinion is a mighty tool as B.M. is finding out.
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If they know you, It's all good.
No problems. Pack if you need to.
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« Reply #45 on: March 29, 2006, 10:53:11 AM »
He musta forgot about me talking to the CO (Mr. Henry) about coyote hunting (at night) on the PHA.  No problemo.

Bigfoot hunting in Oklahoma?  Since there "ain't" no such animal/creature in existence (per the wildlife department) how can one "hunt" them?  :)
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« Reply #46 on: March 29, 2006, 11:26:48 AM »
Public opinion would vary from your dream world,there would be many upset people,you think you get in trouble for shooting a bald eagle or a condor,kill a species not yet discovered and they will make an example of you in no time. :roll:
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« Reply #47 on: March 29, 2006, 11:37:14 AM »
Quote from: D.G.
Drag it's hairy butt to the nearest television station for an exclusive before anyone can seize you or it. Public opinion is a mighty tool as B.M. is finding out.
BTW B.M.
If they know you, It's all good.
No problems. Pack if you need to.


How You gonna drag an 8ft Ape?

I'd shoot him, then saw his head off...then haul ass out of there...before his kinfolk showed up!  :D

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« Reply #48 on: March 29, 2006, 11:40:51 AM »
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Public opinion would vary from your dream world,there would be many upset people,you think you get in trouble for shooting a bald eagle or a condor,kill a species not yet discovered and they will make an example of you in no time. :roll:


Like Slim Pickens is purported to have said: "reckon I knew the job was dangerous when I signed on"...

I suspect public opinion would likely center around the exact circumstances of this type of "find".   Was it a case of self-defense or shoot on sight, etc. as I have observed both types of behavior (curious/passive as well as belligerent alpha male) when out in the woods.
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« Reply #49 on: March 29, 2006, 04:21:26 PM »
Truck with a modified hydraulic bale spear to lift the carcass.
You would be a hero to some and a villian to others.
And if his friends show up stack em like cord wood.
The Smithsonian really likes to mount the exhibits in group poses.
Aftere you cut a deal with the Smithsonian to "donate" in return for negotiated grant money to fund further study in other parts of the country to determine if there are any sub species or all one species just different due to environment.
Might mean taking one from the deep south and the Pacific NW, in order to determine any possible differences.
Really simple once you put some thought into it.
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« Reply #50 on: March 29, 2006, 04:59:53 PM »
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Truck with a modified hydraulic bale spear to lift the carcass.
You would be a hero to some and a villian to others.
And if his friends show up stack em like cord wood.
The Smithsonian really likes to mount the exhibits in group poses.
Aftere you cut a deal with the Smithsonian to "donate" in return for negotiated grant money to fund further study in other parts of the country to determine if there are any sub species or all one species just different due to environment.
Might mean taking one from the deep south and the Pacific NW, in order to determine any possible differences.
Really simple once you put some thought into it.
After the magnanimous donation our beloved institution you are a hero.
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Take Bigfoot carcass to the local taxidermist...and ask him how much to have him stuffed....then charge people admission to see the Bigfoot exhibit!
Call it the Museum of the Great north American ape! 8)

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« Reply #51 on: March 29, 2006, 06:28:30 PM »
I agree with WmRoy as I do not believe that most people who are hunting BF is looking for a payday.
I am one of the ones that thinks a body is the only thing that will prove that they are real. I have no problem with someone hunting BF as long as they are doing it for that reason. Sure if they can make a little $$$ off of it thats ok with me but their main reason should be to prove it is real.

I have always said this,
If I ever do get lucky enough to be the one that finds or shoots a BF this is what I will do.
First get a good lawyer :-) That is to protect myself from the body being taken from me.
Then call every press I can think of and have them come on over for pictures.
After that I will donate the body to the best scientist I can find on the subject as long as it is available for others to study as well.

Now if someone handles it that way and then makes money with a book and going on talk shows and all I say go for it. If they try to make money off of the body then in my eyes they are no better then any poacher out there.
I hope that when a body is found or killed then some real laws can be made to protect them. I just do not think it will ever happen without that first body. After that I think no others should be harmed.
They have film, DNA, Hair, feces, foot prints, Hand prints even a body print if you believe some and that stuff has not proved anything to most people.
Most people will not believe in anything they can not see yet they believe in other things just because someone says it is true.

You know I always say this to people, If it was taken to a court of law to decide if Bigfoot is real or not more then enough evidence has already been found to prove it is real. Many people have been put to death or given life in jail on much less evidence then they have that Bigfoot is real.

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« Reply #52 on: March 29, 2006, 07:09:45 PM »
You are probably forgetting that since there is no hunting season on BF's, that the body, your firearm, vehicle or anything else used in the commission of the crime can be confisicated as evidence.  BF would be the property of the state and held until such time as a trial could be completed.  And since it was a crime, you would probably never get it back.

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« Reply #53 on: March 30, 2006, 01:51:53 AM »
Exactly Dave,these guys talk about all the millions they would make,they will be making collect calls from a jail cell trying to sell thier book rights so they can hire a lawyer...lol...I dont understand how they think the state/govt agencies wont step in and take thier "specimen",if they were extremly lucky they wouldnt end up with a long term jail sentence for killing an endagered species,Im pretty sure the Federal F&G has a loophole in thier laws just for an occasion like this. :roll:
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« Reply #54 on: March 30, 2006, 03:25:17 AM »
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Exactly Dave,these guys talk about all the millions they would make,they will be making collect calls from a jail cell trying to sell thier book rights so they can hire a lawyer...lol...I dont understand how they think the state/govt agencies wont step in and take thier "specimen",if they were extremly lucky they wouldnt end up with a long term jail sentence for killing an endagered species,Im pretty sure the Federal F&G has a loophole in thier laws just for an occasion like this. :roll:


I think in all honesty that an exception would be made in this case.  I really can't see the State in which it is taken being overly upset.  Heck think of all the tourism...... :)   Of course don't shoot one in California!!! :shock:  :-D

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« Reply #55 on: March 30, 2006, 04:36:01 AM »
tHE STATE WOULDNT HAVE THE POWER TO MAKE AN EXCEPTION.this would be a FEDERAL case,any animal that rare would recieve FEDERAl protection.
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« Reply #56 on: March 30, 2006, 07:58:33 AM »
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tHE STATE WOULDNT HAVE THE POWER TO MAKE AN EXCEPTION.this would be a FEDERAL case,any animal that rare would recieve FEDERAl protection.


I still don't see any significant charges being filed....... heck then the Fed's would have to admit they've been covering up the knowledge that there is a bigfoot.....  :-D  :-D  :shock:  :roll:  :eek:  :)  :D

Get real any charges would be waived in short order due to the significance of the discovery!!   :eek:

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« Reply #57 on: March 30, 2006, 11:51:27 AM »
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tHE STATE WOULDNT HAVE THE POWER TO MAKE AN EXCEPTION.this would be a FEDERAL case,any animal that rare would recieve FEDERAl protection.


Then...the Feds best get busy and furnish that protection NOW which of course means recognizing the species as being in existence in the first place.

Otherwise, trying to insert authority under some "protection" guise ex post facto will not fly as there's such a thing as the US Constitution and a boatload of USSC jurisprudence that says "that dawg won't hunt".
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« Reply #58 on: March 31, 2006, 02:41:21 AM »
You try to tell them that... :roll:
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« Reply #59 on: March 31, 2006, 05:49:46 AM »
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You try to tell them that... :roll:


Don't hafta...the court(s) already have.
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