Author Topic: Pam cooking spray = Case lube ?????? (Read 2597 times)

ButlerFord45 · « **on:** March 30, 2006, 07:20:31 AM »

I find myself out of spray lube, don't want to mess with the lube pad and started wondering if something like Pam cooking spray would work.
Any other cheap folks that may have tried this? It just made sence to me.

Questor · « **Reply #1 on:** March 30, 2006, 07:43:08 AM »

Pam is vegetable oil in a volatile carrier. I'd opt for something that not oily unless I were going to wash the cases after sizing. I wouldn't use it, but if you try it let us know how it works.

Reed1911 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 30, 2006, 08:19:23 AM »

I've never tried Pam, but it may work. I don't think I'd use it.
The Lyman Quick Spray case lube is good stuff, or just have the dies coated in Carbide. Its less money over the long run and works great. Dave @ CH Tool does it.

ButlerFord45 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 30, 2006, 11:26:38 AM »

Well, I tried it. Being a coward at heart, I removed the decapping pin/expander ball in anticipation of a stuck case. It was difficult to get the small amount necessary and I got lube dents in the first couple of cases but the lubrication was more than addequate. I returned the pin/expander and tried the cases I'd already sized and had no problems. I sprayed the remaining 90 223 cases with a trigger pull that was quick enough that I could have fired 1 round out of a mini-gun and still had too much on the cases, I rubbed the excess off by putting the cases in a folded over towel. Things worked great. At the moment they are in the tumbler, I'll let you know how they clean up.
If all goes well, I'll continue to use it. I despise lube pads and if that were my only choice, I'd quit reloading. Labeled Case Lube Spray is like everything else "Gun Specialty", rediculiously over priced.

Questor · « **Reply #4 on:** March 30, 2006, 01:08:56 PM »

I've found cosmetics stores to be wellsprings of funky but useful stuff. I wouldn't be surprised if there's some kind of fine mist aerosol hair oil (called something euphemistic like aloe mocha raspberry freshening mist, or some such crap.)

I'm no fan of lube pads either and seldom use them. I prefer imperial sizing wax. It's easy to apply once you get into the rhythm of it, and it wipes off with a paper towel dipped in rubbing alcohol.

strut64 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 30, 2006, 01:31:44 PM »

I have even used 30 wt motor oil on a pad with success. But a friend showed me imperial sizing wax. End of story- that is the best stuff going. not expensive, a 2 Oz. tin lasts for years - really. Call Midway USA they can get it for you.

Reed1911 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 30, 2006, 01:47:27 PM »

On that note I just use pure lanolin. Buy it at the local Wal-Mart or drugstore. IF they look at you wierd, just ask for the cream for breat feeding mothers. Same stuff. Non-toxic cleans up easy and keeps the hands soft :-D

ButlerFord45 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 30, 2006, 03:31:35 PM »

Well, before sizing, I had run them in the vibratory cleaner just long enough to get the grime off of them. After sizing, I put them back in for about an hour and they came out looking new. So far, so good. If there's no contaminating during loading (which I don't expect), I'll be using a lot more of it. It's minor drawbacks so far are outweighed by the $1 price tag. More to follow when I can.

peakoftherut · « **Reply #8 on:** March 30, 2006, 03:54:55 PM »

I will give you guys a tip on something to try. Go down to you local home builder supply store and buy a bottle of GB wire pulling lube. It's parafin based like Lee's and will not degrade powder. You can get a quart for 6 or 7 dollars, and that should last most people a lifetime.

DaveinOakwoodGA · « **Reply #9 on:** March 30, 2006, 05:52:32 PM »

peakoftherut,

Can it be diluted with alcohol or does it come diluted?

thanks,

Dave

R.W.Dale · « **Reply #10 on:** March 31, 2006, 10:13:30 AM »

I use this stuff http://www.weldaid.com/lubematic.htm It really works just 3 or four drops on my RCBSpad will lube cases for a month

TNrifleman · « **Reply #11 on:** March 31, 2006, 02:46:00 PM »

I'm pretty cheap too. I have used Imperial Sizing Die Wax for many years now with complete satisfaction. A small tin will lube 1000s of cases, provides excellent lubrication, and is clean and easy to remove. I really don't think it can be beat. Try it... no spray mess, no lube pads, no problems, and true economy!

Jim n Iowa · « **Reply #12 on:** March 31, 2006, 03:26:21 PM »

Where are we on this thread? I myself want nothing to do with a pad. I want a spray like "Hot Shot". Pam sounded like it could work. Any other suggestions other than using a pad. Reloading is time consumming enough, factor in the !!! well you already know.
Jim

Jerry Lester · « **Reply #13 on:** March 31, 2006, 05:18:15 PM »

I've tried quite a few different substances over the years, but I still prefer Hornady 1-Shot myself.

ButlerFord45 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 31, 2006, 05:37:39 PM »

Quote from: Jim n Iowa

Where are we on this thread? I myself want nothing to do with a pad. I want a spray like "Hot Shot". Pam sounded like it could work. Any other suggestions other than using a pad. Reloading is time consumming enough, factor in the !!! well you already know.
Jim

Jim, unless I get some unexpected contamination after loading, I'm satisfied with the generic Pam. The only problem I've had was getting too much which is easily delt with by just rolling a bunch of cases between two pieces of toweling to remove the excess. They were still adequetly lubed for effortless sizing and an hour in the vib had them clean as a whistle. I believe that had there been lube left inside the case the walnut hulls would have stuck, that was not the case. That's all I know so far. I am pleased enough that I'd recomment that you blow a buck or two and try it for your self.

peakoftherut · « **Reply #15 on:** March 31, 2006, 07:08:10 PM »

Dave - It has about the same viscosity as hand lotion.

lefty o · « **Reply #16 on:** March 31, 2006, 08:48:14 PM »

it may cost more, but i'll stick with hornady 1 shot. im just too lazy to deal with the extra hassle of being cheap. :-)

Dusty Miller · « **Reply #17 on:** March 31, 2006, 10:00:44 PM »

Necessity is the mudda of inventjun.

Coyote Hunter · « **Reply #18 on:** April 01, 2006, 01:10:26 PM »

I have never understood peoples vehement dislike of lub pads. I just lube them up and wash my hads afterwards. The cases get tumbled to take the lube off.

So far I've probably lubed over ten thousand cases, just seems like part of reloading. I'd much rather lube than trim even though my setup lets me trim about 400 cases an hour.

ButlerFord45 · « **Reply #19 on:** April 01, 2006, 06:10:34 PM »

Quote from: Coyote Hunter

....I'd much rather lube than trim ......

All I would add to that statement is: AMEN![/color]

Tom W. · « **Reply #20 on:** April 01, 2006, 06:28:53 PM »

krochus, Did you see the MSDS on that stuff!?!?!?!

I've used PAM to lube the pistons on the seats of my bass boat, when I had one.
I too would rather lube than trim. I've come to the point where I'll lube, resize, trim , chamfer and deburr and then toss the brass in the tumbler. At least when they're finished tumbling I can prime and load.

hunt127588 · « **Reply #21 on:** April 06, 2006, 08:28:05 AM »

Wonder how well Remington Dri-Lube would do? It's teflon based and dries after being sprayed.

jcunclejoe · « **Reply #22 on:** April 06, 2006, 08:53:14 AM »

MMMmmmmm butter flavored cases, maybe instead of tumbling after sizing with Pam, we could just pop em in our mouth for a few seconds. Just like buttered popcorn without the corn.

Just having fun.

Joe

Hairtrigger · « **Reply #23 on:** April 06, 2006, 09:12:43 AM »

I have used a Kroil in a pinch to lube cases. Kroil seems to work just fine for me.
I have my loading equipment in the same building as my office instead of my house so I don't have access to a kitchen when improvising

Madmark · « **Reply #24 on:** April 07, 2006, 05:43:36 PM »

I don't know if I'd trust "the oil that creeps" as a case lube! Of course, if the only other option I had was to steal the wifes cooking spray, maybe I would!! I would opt for the Lemon Garlic flavor howevr! :-D

trotterlg · « **Reply #25 on:** April 07, 2006, 06:39:11 PM »

I have been using a can or some sort of the teflon dry lube. It leaves an extremely thin dry film on the case, I just spray a tray full of cases, get a little in the neck and size them, it has worked well for a few hundred cases. I am loading a 17 Remington. Larry

GANDER · « **Reply #26 on:** April 08, 2006, 08:00:54 AM »

Motion lotion...

Steve P · « **Reply #27 on:** April 08, 2006, 05:00:31 PM »

I have several kinds for different cases.
I have imperial sizing die wax. Excellent stuff. Highly recommended.
I have an RCBS lube pad and I think I last used in 197? hmmm don't remember.
I have Dillon spray lube. It is Alcohol base with lanolin in it.
I have purchased pure lanolin and put it in alcohol. I use a double boiler on the stove and heat the mixture in hot water until it gets cloudy (dont spill the alcohol!!) then shake. Do this several times and it is very similar to the Dillon spray lube.
I throw a box of brass (100) into an old 9x13 cake pan, spray a couple of squirts

shake a little

, spray a couple of more squirts, and let the alcohol evaporate a little. Ready to lube. No dents. No problems. Cleans easily in the tumbler in about 1/2 hour.

Steve

:-D

nofun1 · « **Reply #28 on:** April 22, 2006, 05:02:44 AM »

The guy who loads 223's for me on a progressive press uses western family cooking spray with olive oil and he loves it. He has been using it for years. I have never had a single problem with his loads. he puts a bunch of brass in a cardboard soda pop flat gives them a squirt and shakes them around and dumps them into the hopper. He says he started doing this because he can load 1000 rounds an hour and needed a fast way. his card board pop flat is completely soaked and he just keeps it in his shop. his loads arent oily and I dont think he cleans them afterward. I plan to try it also.

JD11 · « **Reply #29 on:** April 22, 2006, 03:47:28 PM »

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Any other suggestions other than using a pad. Reloading is time consumming enough, factor in the !!! well you already know.

I've been using RCBS Case Slick spray lube for a couple years now and it sure beats a pad. It goes a long way and if I remember right, not expensive. It spreads well, but yet isn't oily, odd stuff, but works very well.