Author Topic: Newby here'bouts... Need info on sighting (Read 1458 times)

Oklahomabound · « **on:** April 06, 2006, 04:40:30 PM »

Good evening to ya'll. I'm new in these parts; and have a question regarding the H&R Buffalo Classic.
I just got my H&R Buffalo Classic today; and I'm a dinosaur and want to use the Williams receiver sight and Lyman target front sights (with those aperture inserts...
Any info regarding the techniques for first sighting in would be very much appreciated....
Also, any recommendation regarding the bullet weight/size, powder brand, etc would be appreciated since I'll be reloading....

Thanks for your help....

Datil · « **Reply #1 on:** April 06, 2006, 06:03:43 PM »

Hello Oklahomabound,
First off Welcome to GBO forums, Can not tell you much BC!
I'll bet some one comes on, & answer all your questions.
You are on your way to becoming Handi-holic.
Good luck Marv.

trotterlg · « **Reply #2 on:** April 06, 2006, 06:46:45 PM »

Because a Handi is a break action rifle, a receiver sight may not be a good of a choice. When you close the action the barrel will end up in slightly different place each time. It may not be much but it may be enough to cause a change in th POI. When the front and rear sight are attached to two movable pieces is is not a good thing. Larry

dodd3 · « **Reply #3 on:** April 06, 2006, 10:44:58 PM »

you have a choice of two rear sight;s for the buff, one is the william's fp sight $58.00 from h&r or the smith rear sight for $140 from buffalo arms. the lyman globe sight that comes with the buff is to high at.584 you realy need the lyman ahb.404 it works beter with the two rear sight's that i have mentiond,here are some pics the top pic is the williams fp the bot pic is the smith buckhorn lader sight. both sight's are fitted to the top of the barrel where it is taped for the scope mount.
bernie

A.J. · « **Reply #4 on:** April 12, 2006, 09:49:31 AM »

Trotter, I'm not following your thinking on the receiver sights. Now if the front sight was attached to the barrel (that moves), and the rear sight was attached to the receiver which is stationary, I could see your point. But with both sight pieces are attached to the same rigid tube (the barrel), the relationship between them will not change no matter how loose the barrel is. (?)

quickdtoo · « **Reply #5 on:** April 12, 2006, 09:56:50 AM »

AJ, you got tricked by the terminology just as I did on a previous thread, receiver sights mount to the frame as opposed to the WGRS and FP sights which mount on the barrel...

Tim

http://www.graybeardoutdoors.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=87874&highlight=receiver

A.J. · « **Reply #6 on:** April 12, 2006, 09:48:15 PM »

That's why they're called "receiver" sights....duh...You were right..I just wasn't paying attention. :oops:

Oklahomabound · « **Reply #7 on:** April 13, 2006, 11:31:38 AM »

Thanks for all the advice.... I put my first 40 rounds through it with the sights that came with it.... got nice groupings at 50 and 100 yards....

Have ordered the Smith Enterprise sight.... will have to get the other Lyman front sight ordered....

quickdtoo · « **Reply #8 on:** April 13, 2006, 12:14:58 PM »

CAUTION WIL ROBINSON!!! The Smith ladder sight now comes with a notch slider, no peep slider!! I ordered one 2 months ago from Buffalo Arms after debating on ordering it for over a year due to my old eyes and not being able to use a notch sight, got it this week, it now comes with a notch slider, not a peep slider as stated on their web site, which they have now changed. I emailed Smith to ask if I can swap the slider, but they haven't responded yet. Buffalo Arms checked all they had in stock, every one has a notch.

So, if I can't get a peep slider, it's going back to Buffalo Arms.

Tim

dodd3 · « **Reply #9 on:** April 17, 2006, 02:05:43 AM »

tim if you ring ron smith and ask hime to put a peep slider on he will he did with mine be sides they cost $10 us from smith.
bernie

quickdtoo · « **Reply #10 on:** April 17, 2006, 04:28:00 AM »

I've called him twice and sent 3 emails, no reply!! :x

Tim

Oklahomabound · « **Reply #11 on:** May 01, 2006, 07:36:23 AM »

Quote from: dodd3

you have a choice of two rear sight;s for the buff, one is the william's fp sight $58.00 from h&r or the smith rear sight for $140 from buffalo arms. the lyman globe sight that comes with the buff is to high at.584 you realy need the lyman ahb.404 it works beter with the two rear sight's that i have mentiond,here are some pics the top pic is the williams fp the bot pic is the smith buckhorn lader sight. both sight's are fitted to the top of the barrel where it is taped for the scope mount.
bernie

Got the lyman ahb .404 front sight a week ago; and just got the smith buckhorn ladder sight in from UPS today..... Smith Enterprise Inc. does great work!!! Will have them on the Buffalo Classic before the day is out... Thanks for the advice and info....

rifleman61 · « **Reply #12 on:** May 01, 2006, 11:22:49 AM »

Hey boy, how ya'll doin'? My grandad came from Oklahoma, so as my Dad and Mom. GrandDad knew Will Rogers, shot trap, market hunted and fished on the Verdigris River in southeast Kansas and lived Talala, my Mom lived in Oolagah; and every year when I was a little boy we always vacationed on Oolagah Lake or Lake of the Cherokees; that's my claim to fame, and my hero is still Bud Wilkinson.
Now I got that out of the way, you're gonna' like the BC. How do you want to shoot it? I just turned in a range report on it, do you want to shoot commercial ammunition or cast bullets, it does make a difference here. Okay?
Talk to me man, you're gonna' like it.

Anchor's Away/Semper Fi
CPO Bull