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Offline mjbgalt

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problems with ruger 22/45
« on: April 18, 2006, 06:26:33 AM »
I just bought this gun, it is the 5.5" bull barrel. It has not once even hiccupped, every time it feeds like a dream.

however, it is very inaccurate. at 25 yards off the bench i have a hard time getting it under 4 inches in a 10-shot group.

at 30 FEET i tried again and finally got a group under 2 inches.

i have shot one of these before and it was very accurate. all i want is to be able to shoot 50-cent piece sized groups at 25 yards. i don't expect tiny little groups from a .22 handgun at 25 yards.

replacing the sights with either more precise (thinner) sights, or a red dot might help things.

i don't have trouble with my other handguns.

Guys, what do you think?

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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2006, 07:05:25 AM »
I'd practice with it some more to make sure I'm staying steady and controlling the trigger properly. I'd also try at least one more brand of ammo. Frankly I don't see how it can be that inaccurate. Generally, I expect to be able to shoot 2" groups at 25 yards. Is the group of uniform circular shape? Is there any sign of pulling shots to left or right?
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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2006, 07:09:52 AM »
it seems to pattern more than group. there doesn't seem to be any consistancy to it.

I used both Remington Golden and CCI Velocitors. I don't know why that shouldn't be enough to know if it will shoot...but I have another brand I can try.

I know some of this is probably my influence on the gun, but from what I hear other guys getting from these guns...mine is not right.

a lot of people claim to shoot a lot of squirrels with these but in my experience, a gun that groups 4" is not going to bring much game home at all.

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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2006, 09:34:41 AM »
took it back out to the range and shot again...still scattered. i shot 3 more types of ammo and same result. i got ONE group that went under 3 inches in the last 300 shots.

not cool.

i am calling ruger to see what can be done.

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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2006, 10:47:51 AM »
heard back from ruger already. they said ship that thing back in here. told me they would clean it even, just ship it in and they would fix it.

the lady said i should be able to get one inch to one and a half inch groups, not this 4" stuff.

good to hear.

they said i wouldn't owe them a dime...

 :grin:  so far so good but i am out $20 sending it to them.

oh well...

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« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2006, 11:27:05 AM »
eewww....4 to 5 week wait.


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« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2006, 12:26:49 PM »
the shipping place quoted me $67 and some change to ship this thing to AZ overnight by air.

i called ruger while i waited and the lady said "that's WAY too high. give me your name and address and we will ship you a return label. Drop it off with UPS."

so, ruger comes through again.

 the lady at the shipping place was stunned. she had just gotten done explaining how UPS and USPS would not ship guns anymore.

people need to be more educated...plus she seemed kinda pleased that it would cost me to send a handgun...sorta gave me a look as i showed her it was unloaded.

heh heh heh, shoulda said BANG real loud.  :)


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« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2006, 09:33:31 AM »
sent it about 2 weeks ago and got a notice one week after sending it. basically the note gave me a reference number and information to use when calling to check on the gun.

ruger has been great so far...i took a long time to send it in because of a hectic work schedule.

i will let you all know the updates as they happen.

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« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2006, 08:50:15 PM »
bet it is loose sights, or muzzle.

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« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2006, 09:29:12 AM »
You only tried 2 kinds of ammo???

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« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2006, 03:52:57 AM »
mjbgalt,  so, did ya get it back yet? how 's it shooting? I have had good luck with the few rugers I have, one did have to go back, but was taken care of and no problems since.  hope it works out for ya.    Dune

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« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2006, 02:13:28 AM »
got it back today...ruger shipped it overnight for me again.

they cut a new crown, apparently that was the problem...i looked at the crown before, thinking it could be the problem but i couldn't see anything that looked out of the ordinary.

they sent me a paper with the serial number and work number of the gun and so i called to check twice and both times they got right back to me.

i am very hapy with ruger. it took a little longer than i would have liked, but the man told me 5 weeks from the time they get it, and it has been exactly that long.

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« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2006, 02:14:29 AM »
i tried 4 kinds of ammo...

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Re: problems with ruger 22/45
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2006, 08:57:01 PM »
first off, make sure your sights are actually TIGHT.  then , you gotta try about 20 diff brands of ammo, and that is just scratching the surface, really.

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Re: problems with ruger 22/45
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2006, 04:57:17 PM »
if a quality-brand gun won't shoot 4 or 5 kinds of common rimfire ammo, the problem is with the gun, not the ammo.

the sights were fine, as you can see from the post. the crown looked fine to me...but apparently that was all it took.

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Re: problems with ruger 22/45
« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2006, 12:15:31 PM »
I have a 5.5" stainless 22/45 with bull barrel, bought it new in March 04 and todate have a few thousand rounds thru it.  The first few months were kinda tough with the pistol, it functioned great but accuract was not great.  On my second range trip the pistol was still shooting patterns instead of groups, a close inspection revealed the front sight was loose.  After I tightened it down, used blue lock-tite on the screw threads, the pistol actually started grouping.

I went thru about 10-12 different brands and types of ammo before I found what it really wanted to shoot.  At 25 yards some brands would produce 3" groups while others put out 3/4" groups, so ammo is a BIG factor when it comes to rimfires.

I have a few suggestions for owners of Ruger pistols...

Take the factory sights and toss them in the trash.  Get a set of VQ target sights and use those for open sight shooting.  Install the scope rail and get a good optical scope if you really want to shoot small holes or hunt small game, use a red dot for plinking or plate shooting matches.  Dot sights are not precise enough for consistant group shooting when you are looking for small holes, they will work great for most small game hunting needs.n

Take the factory hammer and toss it in the trash with the factory sights, order a new hammer from VQ.  This will improve the tough factory trigger pull by about 50% and make shooting small groups seem easy.

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Re: problems with ruger 22/45
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2008, 04:31:12 PM »
i bought another one tonight, same configuration, for my mom and i to shoot the NRA Marksmanship course at my local range. the problem, i believe now, was the thin grip was shifting side to side in my hand because it didn't fill my hand. i am getting a slide-on rubber grip and i think this may change that problem.

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Re: problems with ruger 22/45
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2008, 03:30:49 AM »
I bought a 22/45 (PMKIII512) in December 2006 because Gander Mountain had them on sale at a price I just couldn't turn down.  I didn't like the thin grips, but figured I ought to give it a try.  I took me about 2 mags to adjust to the grips.  After that the only two things affecting accuracy was ammo and shooter.  The pistol has been darned accurate up to 25 yards and shoots comparably to my MKIII Hunter and MKII GC.  However, ammo makes a big difference in function and groups.  All my rimfires do better with SV ammo.  None will reliably feed Aguila ammo.  It shoots well, if I can get it from the mag to the chamber.  Part of the fun of shooting rimfires is figuring out what the beasts like to shoot.

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Re: problems with ruger 22/45
« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2008, 11:40:51 AM »
FWIW, you shouldn't shoot velocitors in this pistol...too much stress on the action.
You shouldn't shoot hyper velocity much through ANY semi-auto--most manufacturers strictly state this in their user manuals.
Keep it to standard and hi-vel and you be fine...and probably get better accuracy anyway.

I have a 5.5" MKIII 22/45 as well...complete action job, 1911 grip mod, and custom sights. If you want something more accurate, replace the front sight with a marbles ramp and bead sight and get the MKIII "hunter" rear sight blade. I'm using this combo and it works very well...

PM me for details if you like.