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Offline slink

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100 gr PowRBall 9mm, over .45 jhp's, any day.
« on: April 18, 2006, 05:51:36 PM »
230 gr .45 jhp's that is, 850 fps jhp, vs 1500 fps for the CorBon 9mm jhp. Anyone who will shoot some animals with both will agree. The low speed .45 jhp's just don't expand reliably in flesh. Putting clothing on the target worsens this, because the clothing debris "clogs" the jhp' s nose-cavity, retarding expansion of the bullet.  The bullet doesn't expand, it wastes power on overpenetration of the target.  Men aint deer, you CAN "shock down" a man, much of the time.  You have to try, because that's the only way you can hope to get the instant stop that you need. You need not sweat a deer running off for 5 seconds, after the chest hit. With a man shooting or stabbing or clubbing you 4x per second, even .50 second is much too slow of a "stop".

This 100gr CorBon 9mm load has adequate penetration, and is easy to control in rapidfire with a lw, compact ccw pistol. Hitting the man with all of 500 ft lbs is better than wasting 1/3rd of 360 ft lbs on overpenetration.  Yes, it's "only" 250 more ft lbs, which is like the diff between not being shot with a .38 special, and being shot with one.  I say that having the extra power certainly can't hurt, and in my experience on feral dogs and other animals, the extra power usually does help.  The 160 gr CorBon .45 Jhp, at 1200 fps, is also good, but it's considerably harder to control in really rapidfire repeat shots.
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100 gr PowRBall 9mm, over .45 jhp's, any d
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2006, 06:01:26 AM »
Slink, it is an age-old argument, of which everyone is tired of talking about.  The best that can be said, is all cartridges have their abilities and their limitations.  Comparison between the 9mm and 45 ACP as been going on for years.  There are many 9mm fans who still think it slaughters the 45 ACP; but that won't happen.  There are too many incidences where a 45 ACP will be preferred over the 9mm.  But the 9mm really shines in some areas, and the 45 really shines in some areas.  But there is no one round, gun, bullet, or whatever that is 100% guaranteed to out do the others.  There is no bullet that will have perfect penetration, perfect expansion, and have the intelligence to not overpenetrate or go through a wall.  That is why there are so many different factors out there that need to be considered in a defensive situation.  The best defensive tool out there to be considered is the brain.  Once you have thought out your "battle plan," then you will have less to think about when the time comes to use it.

Due to the slower nature of the 45 ACP, I've not heard of too many incidences where a HP made a pass-through on an assailant.  Even so, many defensive bullets designed for the 45 ACP take the slower velocities into consideration, and are made to expand more readily as such.  I would be interested in reading what information you have found out in regards to overpenetration when using this round.

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