Author Topic: gun problems (Read 1343 times)

lendar · « **on:** April 24, 2006, 03:07:04 PM »

I sent my rifle in and had 2 barrels fitted to it. When I got it back, the rifle is broken. It will cock if the barrel is up, but if the barrel is down it will not cock. The transfer bar hits on the back of the firing pin and will not let the hammer come back. Whats wrong and where is a blown up view of the insides of this rifle. And also can I fix whats wrong or do I need to send it back.

Dean van Praotl · « **Reply #1 on:** April 24, 2006, 03:28:17 PM »

What do "barrel up" and "barrel down" mean? Perhaps you could say something like "action open" or "action closed."

If "barrel down" means "action open" then maybe the wizards at the factory have come up with an "improvement" that you got for free... :shock:

stimpylu32 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 24, 2006, 03:35:26 PM »

Lendar

The first thing would be to call their CS and ask them , the number is in the FAQ at the top of the forum and here is a link to a drawing , its not the best but will help some .

http://www.e-gunparts.com/productschem.asp?chrMasterModel=2190zSB1

quickdtoo · « **Reply #3 on:** April 24, 2006, 03:42:41 PM »

Details on R&R can be downloaded at Perklo's web site if you want to do your own repair. Did you have H&R do a trigger job while it was there?

Tim

www.perkloafm.com

Fred M · « **Reply #4 on:** April 24, 2006, 04:02:31 PM »

Sounds like the gun is missassembled.

!. The lifter spring is in the wrong notch or inverted.

2. The trigger extensinon fell out during assembly or is not in the notch.

3. trigger honed to fine.

It is hard to say what is wrong, best you send the gun back. But if you know what you are doing it should be easy enough to fix. Read the Perklo directions In the FAQ.

lendar · « **Reply #5 on:** April 24, 2006, 04:55:58 PM »

The rifle was at the factory for a barrel fit only. I can see no reason for them to be in the action. Let me try and explain the problem. If you hold the barrel pointed up in the air towards the sky the hammer will pull back, if you point the barrel towards the ground the hammer will not pull back, the transfer bar hits the back of the firing pin.

myarmor · « **Reply #6 on:** April 24, 2006, 07:00:54 PM »

If you have serious reservations about cracking open the receiver to do it yourself, or if it's your first time doing so, I recomend sending it back to the factory and let them do it.
Not only can it be confusing, but can also void your warranty as well.
Bad part is it might take another 3 weeks or so to get it back :x
Sorry to hear about your troubles. I too have had them before. If your patient, they will take care of it and pay for the shipping. Call and ask for a call tag.
-Aaron

MSP Ret · « **Reply #7 on:** April 25, 2006, 02:02:12 AM »

Sorry to hear of your problem but if I remember correctly from others who have been unfortunate enough to have encountered a problem with a rifle returned from the factory the repairs were completed in just a day or so and the rifle was returned in just a few days. I suggest calling CS, explaining the problem and asking for a "call tag" so they pay shipping both ways. They are very accomidating on this for their problems and are usually very helpful to we Handiholics, especially with a full explaination and a little politeness on our end. If the trigger was heavy or stiff when you sent it in and it does not work properly now I woulkd suggest you ask for a (free) trigger job now with the pull reduced to about 3 lbs. which is about as low as they will go. They sometimes are returned a bgit lower but there are limits set by the factory (LAWYERS!!!) that they are bound to. Best of luck, make the phone call, ask for the gun back quickly, ask for a call tag and free trigger job and be nice and polite!!! It usually works....<><.... :grin:

lendar · « **Reply #8 on:** April 25, 2006, 06:55:28 AM »

I did call this morning and was told to send it back and they would fix it in a day or two. I still don't understand what happened and why. It would have been nice if I could have fixed it and not had to wait all over again. I do thank everyone for there ideas.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #9 on:** April 25, 2006, 07:02:23 AM »

Transfer bar problems happen, just the design of the mechanism. :? Think on the bright side, it's better to happen now than when in the field on a hunt!! :shock:

Tim

myarmor · « **Reply #10 on:** April 25, 2006, 07:19:04 AM »

Good to hear. As MSP said before, they will take care of everything, you just need to be polite

Hope you get a speedy fix and it gets back to you fast.

lendar · « **Reply #11 on:** April 25, 2006, 08:58:35 AM »

Yes, but think about it from my end. I ordered 2 new barrels and waited about a month and here they are. I looked at them and got things ready to go to the range and then found the problem. What a let down not to be able to try them out. And my first thought was that when it comes back it will be raining. I do have 3 handi-rifles but you always want to shoot the new one.

myarmor · « **Reply #12 on:** April 25, 2006, 09:58:36 AM »

I see your point entirely. Same thing happened with me when I ordered my Comp barrel. Got it back and the transfer bar broke upon first cocking out of the box :x :evil: It also had my 223 mated to it, and I had to send it right back to the factory...long story short I didn't get to shoot it for over 2 months. The Groundhogs where having a vaction around here while it was away. I learned pretty quick to have another receiver around in case this happens again.

lendar · « **Reply #13 on:** May 07, 2006, 01:56:57 AM »

Just to let everyone know, I sent my rifle back to NEF and a little over a week later it was back fixed with no charge. The paper said replaced firing pin. I have never seen a firearms company or any other company go that far out of there way to to take care of people.

Mac11700 · « **Reply #14 on:** May 07, 2006, 04:12:41 AM »

Quote from: lendar

Just to let everyone know, I sent my rifle back to NEF and a little over a week later it was back fixed with no charge. The paper said replaced firing pin. I have never seen a firearms company or any other company go that far out of there way to to take care of people.

Great :toast:

Now you see one of the reasons we love these little rifles....Glad you got it back...now...go out and shoot it

Mac

lendar · « **Reply #15 on:** May 11, 2006, 01:53:34 AM »

Here we go again. I tried the 223 barrel. It came open when shot. Not very good. It does not lock up well, even when shut hard. I then tried the 243 barrel. Same thing, it came open when fired, not as bad as the 223. Both barrels have very light firing pin strikes and the 223 did not go off several times. And the 243 had vertical stringing like an older 243 I had. I called NEF and they are going to send a call tag and fix everything. Whoever fitted the barrels and put in the firing pin did not impress me to much. The girl on the phone said make sure I put everything to the attention of Gordan. We shall see what happens next.

Mac11700 · « **Reply #16 on:** May 11, 2006, 05:19:25 AM »

That's a bummer

The good folks at C/S will take care of you..

Mac

Norseman112 · « **Reply #17 on:** May 11, 2006, 10:15:40 AM »

Boy oh boy thats something else. Sorry to hear of the troubles your going through. :?

John

myarmor · « **Reply #18 on:** May 11, 2006, 02:22:16 PM »

This is something that should never have happened in the first place, no doubt. But when you send it back, write a nice but discriptive letter with it describing what all is happening when you fire it and has happened in the past.
Also, if it were me, I would ask for the test target back, as proof they fixed and fired it themselves. Hope this all gets sorted out for you. It's hard being without a good Handi.