:grin: My Dad used to trap long coyote lines with a Model T. Maybe you have seen the picture I use on my lure brochure of Dad and 10 coyotes tied on to his Model T, 4 coyotes on top of the T, 2 tied to the hood, 2 tied to the headlights and 1 on each fender. I remember Dad bringing home 21 coyotes along with several bobcat and fox in his 1942 Mercury. Ace