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Looking for the right scope for a 94
« on: May 19, 2006, 06:25:55 AM »
I'd like to mount a scope on the Winchester model 94 and I'm really not sure which one would work out the best since it is a top eject. in fact I'm not sure which mount or rings would be best either.
 I'd like something that would give me an accurate head shot on a hog at say 50 to 100 yards and be fairly quick to mount. I also like to change  my hand loads a lot for the range so I'd like it adjustable without taking off caps, using dimes, etc.
I'm not going to ask what is best because that always leads to problems. But, which ones have you used over the years and prefer?

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Looking for the right scope for a 94
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2006, 11:00:29 AM »
qajaq59,

Go to XO express sights. They have the setup for you.

Pesonally, I would not scope a 94. A scope with rings and bases adds about 1 lb to the weight, diminishing its handiness.

While you are on the XO web sight, look at their ghost ring set up. You only add about 4 oz to the setup.

FWW, I have the XO ghost ring setup on a Ruger Compact, and love it.

My $.02.


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Looking for the right scope for a 94
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2006, 11:30:58 AM »
To be honest I agree with you and I'd rather not use a scope either.

But...... I've had a Williams peep sight on it and since I shoot so many different loads all the time it is just too much of a pain to keep adjusting it with screw drivers.
If I was just going to use it with one load I'd never put a scope on it. In fact when and if I ever settle on one load, I'll likely put the Williams back on for hunting.
Thanks for the help, Qajaq59

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Looking for the right scope for a 94
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2006, 07:55:37 PM »
You might try the XS Scout Mount System I hear a lot of rave reviews about them.

I'd do one on my 94 375 BB but I cannot make myself get the front ring of the receiver drilled and tapped.  So it will keep the Williams FP.

For my Trapper 44 Mag, it will get a red dot mounted over the receiver, but it is angle eject.

Good luck.
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Looking for the right scope for a 94
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2006, 07:10:48 AM »
I have to agree that the best scope set up is not to have one. The setup you have now, is the one I've used for fourty years, and still IMO the best.
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Looking for the right scope for a 94
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2006, 11:20:16 AM »
It's going to be hard to include all you wants in one package. First off, the top eject 94 only has a few options as far as mounts go. If you're lucky, it has the side-mount holes for the  a side mount base already drilled, if not  you're looking at that added expense, plus the mount and rings for the side mount set up. Or there's the scout scope setup already mentioned, which will also take a gunsmith to drill and tap your receiver and and get everything lined up. Then the scope question. You would like something quick to mount, yet have finger adjustable turrets. That's not an easy task. Most target turret scopes are of the higher magnification, and you're needing a quick, wide field of view, that typically have standard, coin slotted turrets.  If it were me, and I had to put a scope on that 94, with different scope adjustments for different loads, I would opt for the side mount base, and buy as many side ring mounts as I needed for the different loads I would shoot. Then buy multiple scopes and zero each one for a different load, and swap them as you change loads. Or you're going to have a lot of notes to keep track of if you try to reset your zero  as you change loads at the range or the field. With the scout setup, you're more limited to the scope selection, most I've seen have been the Burris 2.5X, and is a wonderful , quick setup, especially for hogs. Here again I would opt for 2 or more pre-zeroed scopes in quick detach rings than trying to rely on a notebook or memory to reset my zero in the field.
This is why I own a total of 14 lever guns, ranging from iron sights, to peep sight, to XS Sights, to Scopes of various makes and sizes. A different set up for different loads or types of hunting. My ultimate reccomendation is go rifle shopping and and add another 94 (or two) to your battery, a  Winchester or a Marlin, that's already set up for mounts, and  set it up with the quick-detatch bases and rings and  scopes of you choice, and don't drill any extra holes in that top-eject 94.

Hope this helps-

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Re: Looking for the right scope for a 94
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2006, 04:24:51 PM »
If I remember right, Jeff Cooper thinks the 30/30 lever action with a scout scope is ideal for fast shooting.

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Re: Looking for the right scope for a 94
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2006, 08:35:15 AM »
The side mount scope you will have to use
really makes a model 94 look awkward. But,
It sure is nice at daybreak and dusk. I have an
angle eject model 94 that is scoped and I must admit that
it does throw off the balance of the rifle some.
I will keep is scoped though for low light conditions.
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Re: Looking for the right scope for a 94
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2006, 08:42:14 AM »
Spend the money on a peep sight and a lot of ammo instead of buying a scope and side mount.  Thats what I did for my 94 and it was a better investment IMO.

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Re: Looking for the right scope for a 94
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2006, 02:00:33 PM »
Gentlemen, thanks for all the advice. I took it. I'm going to leave the Williams peep sight on the Winchester 94 and not scope it after all. 
I got a great price on a Marlin 30AS with a scope on it, and they both look brand new. I'll use the Marlin at the range for my load development and hunt with the Winchester 94. That solves both my problems.
Thanks again. Qajaq

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Re: Looking for the right scope for a 94
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2006, 02:56:23 PM »
Are you saying that you will develop loads in one gun and use them in another?  How will that work?  My BIL has three identical rifles that he and his daughters use for deer hunting and each of them needs different loads.  I can't imagine what planets would have to line up for a Winchester and a Marlin to shoot identical loads.  Good luck.  I hope it works for you.  It nefer would for me.
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Re: Looking for the right scope for a 94
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2006, 04:29:38 PM »
No, I wont be using the newer loads in the Winchester as I already have hunting loads all set for that rilfe.

But I do like to play with different loads, using both cast and jacketed, bullets in 30-30 cal and that peep sight is a pain in the neck to change all the time. And while a tight group is fun, it's a lot more fun if it goes in the center of the target.