I forgot to tell about the DA in the next county. He made it public two years ago that he would NOT proscicuite anyone for poaching deer, so many people have been hurt in car collisions. I guess that is why Ks now allows some out of state hunting and doe permits cost $10 for all you want. And they are BIG, when people talk about using small caliber rifles on deer, then I see their pictures I see why, they are hardly bigger than a Dog. These Deer are much bigger. I shot a 240lb doe last year, Weighed it, and that is not uncommon.