750 Range report

[tanoose]

Shot my new 750 in 35 whelen(22")  using factory remington 200 and 250 grain bullets at 50 yards they all touched and i only shot the 250 grain bullets at 100 yards , i had an off day of shooting i couldn't  get comfortable on the bench but still got  1 1/2 "  groups with the 250's at 100 yards i would bet i can shrink that to an inch or just under on a good day. I am very happy with the whelen i was using a zeiss conquest 3x9 that felt like it made the rifle off balance i wasn';t happy with it . When i got home i took off the zeiss and put on aLeupold 2x7x32 vari-x II and what a difference a scope makes, it handlkes and points better and i am sure i can now get those 1" groups. Just wanted to share that with you guys.

[McLernon]

Good stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You got a shooter too!

Congrats

McLernon

[victorcharlie]

The accuracy is plenty good for big game.   l like the scope choice as well.  I've got a 7400 in a .270 win and 1 and a half is about as good as mine will shoot on a good day.   Lets face it, the .35 Whelen isn't a ground hog gun, and the way I figure it 1.5 inches at 100 should be fine for about any big game out to 250 yards or so........which is probably a lot farther than most people would need to shoot.  I'd say the .35 whelen is an excellent choice of calibers in an autoloading rifle.

[fishdog52]

I finally got my 750 (identical to yours) out last weekend.  I shot a variety of loads using 250 gr. Speer SP, 200 gr. Hornady SP, 225 gr. Nosler BT, and some old 275 gr RN mfg unknown.  The gun cycled perfectly for all, and all shot groups that could be hunted with.
The 200 gr load was over 55.5 gr of 3031, that I have used in an older rifle to take a bunch of whitetails, this gun likes them pretty well to, with groups just over an inch.
On the 250 grain bullets, the gun seemed to like them the faster they were going, some of which were pretty hot, but not overloaded.
My hunting load will be with the 225 gr. Partiton over a case full of RL 15.  The Ballistic Tips look real promising, so I will do some more work on them.
this was my second trip to the range with this rifle.  First trip was with 225 gr bullets, no big disappointments.  The rifle is turning out to be easy to get along with.
Next trip out will be with the chronograph.

[fishdog52]

Appreciate your comments on the the Zeiss.  I have been thinking about replacing the older scopes I am using on this rifle.  You might have saved me about $400+.  Reading the forum pays better that working these days! :-)

[McLernon]

I have the 750 in .308 and I plan to load 150 gr. Hornady Interbonds. What powder and load do you think I should use? I have never reloaded for  a semi before but lots of bolt guns.

McLernon

[fishdog52]

A good place to start with a cartridge like this is to look at what Uncle Sam uses.  I have loaded 30-06 & 308 for other folks over the years & this has worked pretty well.  I am not home at the moment, and don't remember the 308 load, but it was with 150 gr bullets.  Might have been with 414, but will try to confirm the details Monday.  
While there are multitudes of great components available, I am comfortable that the recipes the military uses are "tried & true" in semiautos.  At a bare minimum, it is a good place to start.
This may or may not be intersting, but 3 years ago I spent the summer camping & fishing around Alaska wherever I could reach in a 16' boat, so I was often 18 or 20 miles out in a saltwater bay somewheres.  The rifle I took was a stainless Rem 7 in 308 loaded with 180 gr. Failsafes.  They seem to penetrate thru just about anything.  A good 30 cal. bullet can get the job done in just about any situation I know of.  I cannot explain why I use other calibers most of thetime, maybe its the gun nut thing.

[tanoose]

Fishdog i tried the zeiss first it was only two years old and on a remington 700 that i dont use much anymore  i figured why go out and buy a new scope if i didn't need to but it didn';t work out so i put it back on the 700 were it belongs the 2x7x32 has been one of my favorites so i took it off an ultra-light ruger and put a low varible on the ruger. most of my shooting will be under 100 yards but i love the seven power incase a 200 yard shot is needed. Plus the leupold was much shorter and about 3 ozs lighter and it comes to the shoulder realy well i am very pleased with this combination. Later Tanoose

[fishdog52]

According to my notes, my memory isn't worth much.  The military powder for the 308 is BL-C2, NOT 414.  414 was for the '06.  Back to the 308, with a 150 gr. bullet, start with 45-46 grains of BL-C2 and work up.  If you get close to 50 grains without trouble, you should have a real fine load that will get about everything out of the cartridge that it can deliver.
BL-C2 is nice to load with as it meters through with great consistancy.  It also tends to make pretty nice groups in cartridges that like it.
I like your comments on the scopes.  I have a bunch of decent 2.5x8 & 3x9 scopes on different rifles & some spares.  Recently looked at a Leupold 2.5x8x 38 and really liked what I saw & felt, and am struggling to just use what I have.
I broke down & bought a Rem 750 in the 35 Whelen to replace a 700 Classic I sold a couple of years ago.  So am still feeling a little guilty, I guess.
Anyway, the point I am trying to get around to, is with all this new whizbang technology, you should not have to buy a huge scope to get good brightness & clarity.  That little Leupold was a step in the right direction.

[Rick Teal]

McLernon:

If you're shooting a .308 and are from Cambridge, I assume you must be hunting in the shield.  

I used to hunt with a 30-06 that I loaded back to approximate .308 velocities.  I found that 150 grain bullets were poor performers at the short ranges we normally take deer from the central range.  Also, if you're hunting moose with it, a heavier bullet would likely perform better.

I tend to use Ontario's Official Bullet Weight  :twisted: - the 180 grainer for everything in this province.  I use relatively fast expanding bullets as well, and find they tend to put the animal down quickly as well.  Who wants to trail an animal through a muskeg swamp or into a beaver lake if it can be avoided?

Also, when I loaded for the 742, it was necessary to use a medium burn-rate powder such as IMR 4320, 4064, etc.  A slower powder tended to cause jams in these rifles.  When my 750 arrives, I will probably have to start from scratch on powder selection myself, since mine is in .35 Whelen.

[McLernon]

Hello Rick:

I hunt up around Haliburton On. I picked the 750 in .308 because I'm averse to recoil. The Interbond should hold together pretty good I would think. At any rate it's a step up from my .257 Roberts and I took a nice buck with it a couple of years ago. It didn't go far, it was lung shot.

I hope you have good luck with your 750. Mine shoots just over 1 MOA with factory ammo.

McLernon

[Country Boy]

Got my 750 back from the factory yesterday, it had a crack in the forearm, and I asked them to check it for accuracy. 30-06 with 150 grn bullets (I assume Remington brand) They sent me 3 three shot groups that were 3/4".  I have yet to shoot the rifle, waiting on a scope, and trying to get up the nerve to reload for it.    I don't have much experience with a .35 whelen but my .358 win mowes down anything I shoot at,moose,bear, wild hog, etc. I shoot the .250 speer at 2350 out of a 20" bbl  BLR. :grin:

[358Win]

Good to see that most of the comments are favorable.  Like Country Boy, I have a 358 Win. BLR with a 20" barrel..  I'm very much excited about getting a 35 Whelen Remington 750 Carbine.  Has anyone actually chronographed the 250 grain bullets in the carbine version.  I'm getting about 2390 on a real regular basis with the 250 grain Hornady in my 358 BLR.  I would like to hope for something like 2500 fps from the 35 Whelen in the Rem. Mod. 750 Carbine.

Any input would be great, thanks!!

[Gordy]

What would be the ballistic difference between the Rem 750 in 22 inch  barrel and the carbine in 35 Whelen. Thanks for any input - Gordy.

[Carl Crocker]

Hey .358  What powder are you using to get that vel with .250's in your blr. ? I've done the same with 53 grns of 748, no load book but an old Barnes mentions this load. So it kind of scares me to see all that powder in the case neck then crush it with a .250 speer. But, no problems yet.

[tanoose]

Gordy my guess would be a loss of about 20 FPS per inch in the 35whelen. Give remington a call ask them what there factory ammo is getting in both there models.

[358Win]

Hi Carl:

   The load is 48.0 grains of AA2520.  Yes it is compressed but maybe not as much as the load you mentioned.

[Carl Crocker]

Thank you .358 I was wondering what I was going to do since my supply of AA2015br ran out and is no longer made. I'm going on another bear hunt next Spring. I've shot somewhere around 30 bear with this bullet in .358win. and it just slams them down. I got the Record for Manitoba in 2004 over 5oolbs and 21 6/8's dropped right where he stood in the rain at 70 yds.
  I finally got my scope for my new 750 Remington 06 I don't reload for my semi's so as soon as this heat breaks I will give it a try. This rifle will be used for deer hunting only.The factory target they sent me is very good hope I can do the same.
  Thanks again for the .358 load.