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Offline azmike

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CMP Field Grade Garands, any good?
« on: June 24, 2006, 03:41:59 AM »
I'm looking at getting an M1 Garand from CMP in the near future.  I'm looking for a general purpose shooter (steel plates, truck gun, maybe an occassional use hunting, just for kicks).  Don't mind dings and wear, but I'm not sure about the whole throat/muzzle erosion thing.  CMP rates field grades at about a 5 (.005") on throat erosion, and "possibly" 3 (.003") or more at the muzzle.  

Does anyone have direct experience with Field Grade Garands from CMP?  Would I be looking at needing a new barrel immediately, or do I stand a chance of getting another 100 rounds out of a Field Grade barrel.

Any comments appreciated.

Thanks,

Mike

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Re: CMP Field Grade Garands, any good?
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2006, 06:07:58 PM »
So you want a field grade, eh?  Well, throat erosion, if it's under 5, is not that important; muzzle condition has WAY more  impact on accuracy.  Field grade M1s may have rotten muzzles and in some cases, LOTS of wear.  Here is my personal experience.  You may get lucky -- mail order from CMP is the luck of the draw.

Ordered two CMP M1s, an HRA service grade s/n 5.6M in May '05, and a Springfield field grade s/n 3.8M in August '05.

The HRA SG:

Had a few dings on the wood,
TE=2.75, MW=0
was stone tight
.. and shot fine right out of the box.

The Springfield FG:

Had a rusty bore near the muzzle,
TE=3.25, MW=???
the muzzle was worn oval and had major dings,
the wood was covered with dents, handguards split and mismatched,
upper handguard clip was rusted,
receiver had 1/16" of slop in the stock,
op rod spring was worn out,
op rod rear lug was worn to the point it jumps the channel once in a while,
bolt was bright purple,
gas cylinder was a loose, sloppy fit on the barrel,
receiver left side recoil lugs had rust pitting,
rear sight did not adjust & had a loose aperture,
..and it sprayed bullets all over the range hillside.

Almost sent it back, but since most of the bore looked good, decided I'd try to make it a shooter. Here's what I've done so far:

Replaced op rod spring with an Orion 7 special,
recrowned the muzzle with a reamer from Midway,
peened the barrel splines to tighten the gas cylinder,
tore down and cleaned the rear sight and replaced the spring cover,
soaked bolt in vinegar to restore original finish (it was ugly).
..and dishwashered the stock and handguards, refinished and, shimmed the receiver cutout,

Now it gets most rounds on the paper.

Yet to do:

Have Jim Swartz rebuilt the rear op rod lug,
refinish ugly parts as time permits,

As I said, you may get lucky.  Just be prepared to do some work to get it the way you want it.


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Re: CMP Field Grade Garands, any good?
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2006, 05:28:17 PM »
I have gotten 6 of them. 3 were pretty good shot about 4" at 100 with us surplus think it was lake city. One had to be sent back, bore was completely pitted too bad it was a winchester. And 2 were super. Look like the were just rebuilt. All had deep gouges and some splits in the stocks. The 2 good ones shoot about 2" at 100m. One is danish and it didn't shoot much better than 4" but had a poorly fitted stock, the metal and barrel looked new so I got a new stock for it and after that it shot 2" at 100. I shot 4 into 1" at 100 using federal 150gr hi shok deer ammo out of the danish, it has a VAR barrel. Most of my M1's wandered as the barrels got hot so Im sure glassbedding and some other mods can make a rackgrade shoot pretty good. All of mine were stock with no mods. All were rack grade.

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Re: CMP Field Grade Garands, any good?
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2006, 05:52:48 PM »
Thanks for the replies, gentlemen.  I have decided to pass on the Garand, and use the funds for a new deer rifle instead  (TC Encore SS, 7mm-08).

Maybe I'll go the semiauto route down the road a bit, but then I'll probably go with an AK or AR10  instead.