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surface hardness on ruger 77mkll all weather rifles
« on: July 13, 2006, 04:24:20 AM »
Hi
i wonder which kind of stainless steel is used on ruger center fire rifles and which kind of surface hardness these barrels have after hammer foging? if you know please share your knowledge with me. i've heared that 416R is not suitable for hammer foging du to high amount of sulfphor(S), then what they use in barells?
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Re: surface hardness on ruger 77mkll all weather rifles
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2006, 12:21:26 PM »
Don't worry about it---it will give you years of service----and then years of service to your son and grandson---get the picture??

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Re: surface hardness on ruger 77mkll all weather rifles
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2006, 12:20:00 AM »
Hi Omaha
I am sure ruger rifles are strong and relaiable and it is why I bought one,but living in far north . we had som trouble with  stainless Sako and Tikka rifles  also known for their good quality blowing upp due to stainless steel of not suitable quality . it seems that sulphforised steel  can't cope with extrem cold. in case the ruger barrels are made of 416R or not 410 which is a better choice i can change  my ruger's barrel with a CM one and save the hunting and health.
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Re: surface hardness on ruger 77mkll all weather rifles
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2006, 07:23:22 PM »
Ruger is NOT known for several things, but metallurgy is not one of them.  They are the masters at investment casting, and metal heat treating.  I've never seen or heard of a Ruger being destroyed to the point where someone was injured.  I can assure you of one thing, your Ruger may not shoot to your satisfaction, but it will survive long after you are gone.
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Re: surface hardness on ruger 77mkll all weather rifles
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2006, 11:58:45 PM »
hi doorgunner
my new ruger is indeed very good shooting iron and the fist try before break in gave very good  accuracy more than enough for hunting big game and the trigger is one of the best ! it is light and a delight to shoot. I hope my granson will have it after  i am gone to the hunter's paradis. The concerning is not  for myself .but hunting freinds around me. indeed i,ve read somewhere that ruger is using a better formula 15-5 carpenter steel(very low sulphorand up to 5 NI which enhance toughness) in their hand gun. but i don't know what they use in rifle barrels. i was curiuos to know about the steel used for center fire rifle barrels  and i can't find about it. it would be good to know the kind the steel in case i would solder a sight on the barrel or machining on it.
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Re: surface hardness on ruger 77mkll all weather rifles
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2006, 09:57:57 AM »
Those Sako/Tikka barrels that Kaboomed were from a bad lot of supplied steel----and not an indication of their standard build quality.

If you have a Sako/Tikka that is not under recall---I wouldn't worry about that either.

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Re: surface hardness on ruger 77mkll all weather rifles
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2006, 07:55:15 PM »
After living at 63º North for over twenty years and shooting and hunting with and among those who use stainless Ruger rifles very successsfully in deep sub-zero temps, I think I would safely put concerns of blowing these rifles up to rest. They work just fine- (I would assume that precludes their use when the barrel is full of snow however.)

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Re: surface hardness on ruger 77mkll all weather rifles
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2006, 02:52:40 AM »
Those Sako/Tikka barrels that Kaboomed were from a bad lot of supplied steel----and not an indication of their standard build quality.

If you have a Sako/Tikka that is not under recall---I wouldn't worry about that either.

True enough about the steel, but the way hey handled the situation didn't sit well with many - including myself.  If Ruger barrels had done the same thing you would have seen many ads notifying the public of the problem and offering free repairs, just as Ruger has done with their older handguns.   Instead Sako/Tikka tried the minimalist approach of notifying the owners directly. Lat I heard there were quite a few rifles whose owners could not be located.  Thank you Sako, but "No thanks".
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