Author Topic: Taurus 1911? (Read 5489 times)

GRIMJIM · « **Reply #30 on:** November 19, 2006, 01:01:40 PM »

I think the only complaint that I've heard, if you want to call it a complaint is about the laser etching. That's a matter of personal preference though.

Mnswede · « **Reply #31 on:** November 29, 2006, 08:38:50 AM »

Just recieved the December 2006 copy of American Gunsmith and the first article was on the Taurus PT 1911. Author stated " The Taurus entry is exceptional due to its materials, the precision applied in manufacturing process, as well as the provided enhancements like those mentioned previously, (in the article). A top notch defense pistol it is. A target pistol it isn't. But like any other Series-80, it can be if you're willing". Looks like I'm going to order a PT 1911. The pistol comes in stainless or blued in 5 inch model 45 ACP or a compact model, and stainless for a 38 Super model.

Questor · « **Reply #32 on:** November 30, 2006, 05:01:57 AM »

Bullseye shooters are beginning to take a dimmer view of the Taurus, characterizing it as "just as loose as one of the $400 1911s...If you want to build a bullseye gun get a Springfield Mil Spec." (Bullseye is precision target shooting out to 50 yards.)

Savage · « **Reply #33 on:** December 01, 2006, 10:59:31 PM »

I'm no Bullseye shooter. Even if my pistol were capable of 1" groups, I'm not! I bought a Taurus 1911 as a shooter, and because I have a weakness for 1911s. The one I have is certaintly not loose by anyone's standards. I have only had it out a couple of times, and currently have about 200 rounds of mixed ammo thru it. Mostly 200gr SWC and 230 LRN. The one attempt at grouping resulted in about a 4" group from an improvised rest at 25yds.That is about as good as I would normally shoot under these conditions. For my money, these pistols are a hell of a bargan. 100% reliable to date, and reasonably accurate right out of the box, with a lot of enhancements for under $500. In my opinion it's all the .45 most people will ever need.
Savage

akr · « **Reply #34 on:** December 08, 2006, 05:48:05 PM »

Quote from: Nortonics on September 04, 2006, 01:45:06 PM

Kinda' like fat women and Jap cycles - fun, until someone see's ya riding 'em...

I never worried too much about what other people think.

alien319 · « **Reply #35 on:** December 31, 2006, 04:51:40 AM »

I just read this post 2 minutes ago and I am sorry but it seems that everybody that likes 1911's always likes Kimber's, top-notch Springfields and so on with the "Highest Quality" 1911's. I read earlier someone said that they may buy one in .38 or 40, but it needs to be stainless to grind off the Taurus name. Why would you need to grind it off? Just a question. I'm not trying to start a fight but is it because you are concerned about someone seeing you shoot a 1911 made by Taurus? I've yet to see a bad review on the weapon. Taurus has built a fairly good reputation and concidering the many styles and calibers of the 1911 they are already producing, that in my opinion means they are doing their part to build a fine 1911 weapon system for the lowest price. Also you should take a look at the review done by Shooting Times in August of '06. It is not an Ed Brown or even a high end Kimber but it is a weapon that when combined with good ammo and proper practice and training will hit it's mark just about as good at "defensive" distances which is what the 1911 was designed for almost 96 years ago.

akr · « **Reply #36 on:** August 02, 2007, 03:27:12 PM »

Quote from: Lloyd Smale on July 28, 2006, 12:27:01 AM

might have to buy a .38 super or .40 but it would have to be stainless so i can grind the taurus off of it

So you worry about what others think? Be your own man. If it's good, who cares what others think?

akr · « **Reply #37 on:** August 02, 2007, 03:32:37 PM »

Quote from: Questor on November 30, 2006, 05:01:57 AM

Bullseye shooters are beginning to take a dimmer view of the Taurus, characterizing it as "just as loose as one of the $400 1911s...If you want to build a bullseye gun get a Springfield Mil Spec." (Bullseye is precision target shooting out to 50 yards.)

What and where is your source of information? Erroneous information it is. My Taurus is anything but loose....very tight.

myronman3 · « **Reply #38 on:** August 03, 2007, 07:54:01 AM »

dad has one. it was better than i expected. i did do a few minor improvements to it. look in the handgun forums second down on the list of forums here. that is the tale of a dealer and his personal experiences with taurus. now if they treat their dealers like that, imagine what they are going to treat you like if you ever need them to stand behind their product. you dont stand a chance.
the taurus 1911 i shot worked as designed, but when you buy it pray nothing goes wrong.

myronman3 · « **Reply #39 on:** August 03, 2007, 08:00:09 AM »

the other factor is resale value. good luck selling anything that says taurus on the side of it. if you do, you aint getting squat compared to what you paid. a name like "kimber" or "springfield" or "colt" speaks for itself.

get mad if you like, that is the facts. and i wish all of you taurus owners the very best of luck and i hope you never need them to service your guns.

akr · « **Reply #40 on:** August 03, 2007, 10:57:50 AM »

Quote from: myronman3 on August 03, 2007, 07:54:01 AM

dad has one. it was better than i expected. i did do a few minor improvements to it. look in the handgun forums second down on the list of forums here. that is the tale of a dealer and his personal experiences with taurus. now if they treat their dealers like that, imagine what they are going to treat you like if you ever need them to stand behind their product. you dont stand a chance.
the taurus 1911 i shot worked as designed, but when you buy it pray nothing goes wrong.

Depends on the employee you get. You can say that about any place. Don't make a blanket judgement of a huge business by a bad apple.

akr · « **Reply #41 on:** August 03, 2007, 11:02:35 AM »

Quote from: myronman3 on August 03, 2007, 08:00:09 AM

the other factor is resale value. good luck selling anything that says taurus on the side of it. if you do, you aint getting squat compared to what you paid. a name like "kimber" or "springfield" or "colt" speaks for itself.

get mad if you like, that is the facts. and i wish all of you taurus owners the very best of luck and i hope you never need them to service your guns.

I don't sell any of my guns, especially a 1911 Taurus. Resale value is insignificant to Taurus 1911 owners. Even if you did want to sell it, at least you didn't get screwed on the purchase price, and lose hundreds.

Savage · « **Reply #42 on:** August 04, 2007, 07:52:31 AM »

Update:
No problems to report on my PT 1911 purchased Nov, 2006. I am not fond of the billboard etching on the slide, but that's a complaint, not a problem. I don't shoot it quite as well as some of my other 1911s, but I'll blame that on the series 80 trigger. I have a bucket full of ammo that I loaded (when I was trying to find a cast bullet that my Glock 21 liked), that I have been putting thru the PT lately. These rounds are loaded with LRN/LSWC and LRNFP bullets with various OALs. Haven't found anything it wouldn't feed yet. I think I may have paid a lot more for less gun in the past. For my money (<$500 out the door) I still find it to be a better bargin than the Mil Specs/Govt mdls. It's ready to shoot, right out of the box, no $$$ upgrades needed. Guess I'm ok with my only Taurus. Don't know about their other guns, but it seems they got mine right.
Savage

myronman3 · « **Reply #43 on:** August 04, 2007, 02:52:19 PM »

Quote from: akr on August 03, 2007, 11:02:35 AM

I don't sell any of my guns, especially a 1911 Taurus. Resale value is insignificant to Taurus 1911 owners. Even if you did want to sell it, at least you didn't get screwed on the purchase price, and lose hundreds.

insignifigant? you are nuts. sometimes life happens and it is always nice to have a way to come up with some money. maybe YOU never sell any of your guns, but to say everone who owns a pt1911 doesnt care about resale value is a pretty stupid statement. and screwed? dad said he paid just under 600 for his, and for that i can pick up a used kimber and have twice the gun, a company that will stand behind it, and the ability to recoup every penny i paid for it if i ever wanted to.
i never slammed on taurus. just told ya what i thought of the 1911 i shot and what i think of the way they handle customers that have all too frequent problems. dont get mad at the messenger..... i have seen more than one taurus fan change their tune after they get a dose of taurus customer service.
myself, i will pay twenty extra dollars and have mine say kimber on the side.

myronman3 · « **Reply #44 on:** August 04, 2007, 02:54:40 PM »

Quote from: akr on August 03, 2007, 10:57:50 AM

Depends on the employee you get. You can say that about any place. Don't make a blanket judgement of a huge business by a bad apple.

you are the kind of guy who has his mind made up, and no matter what anyone else has experienced, you simply wont admit nothing. talk to those who have had problems and pray that you never do.

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #45 on:** August 05, 2007, 01:17:32 AM »

If you read any of my posts youd know that i dont give a rats ass what others think of me or my opinions. It was a joke that refered to the fact that at least in my past experience i wouldnt waste my money on a tarus and as far as others seeing me i shoot at my own private range and when i do have company its usually guys that arent real gun savoy and wouldnt know the differnce in a colt or a tarrus. To be honest with you theres no way id part with my money to buy one. If i wanted a good cheaper 45 it would be a sti spartan or a kimber custom. I get a kick out of people who buy guns and then get all emotional about someone not liking there choise. Ive had guns from ever manufacture out there (allmost all of them) and if there junk ill be the first to admitt so. I also dont shoot 200 rounds through a gun and prononce it a good gun. My guns see at least 500 rounds the first day at the range. I also wont bad mouth a manufacturer over one example. Ive owned a few tarrus guns and was never impressed. I appologize to the tarrus owners but put 20000 rounds through one of them then come back and tell me your opinion. There 1911 may be a decent gun. I dont know and never will. Ive had enough problems with other guns in there line and with there service dept to know that another wont be in my safe. Ill say the same about springfield 1911s too. So all you gun experts can flame on about that one too. If i had under a 1000 bucks to spend on a 1911 i wouldnt be looking at an new on the block untested design id buy a colt,kimber or sti. Why because they have proven themselves TO ME to be good guns and I have at least one of each with a round count of well over 50000 rounds and when theyve broke (which they all will) the service depts have been great to deal with. Aint that i have to live with anyones opinion of my guns its that i have to live with myself.

Quote from: akr on August 02, 2007, 03:27:12 PM

Quote from: Lloyd Smale on July 28, 2006, 12:27:01 AM
might have to buy a .38 super or .40 but it would have to be stainless so i can grind the taurus off of it

So you worry about what others think? Be your own man. If it's good, who cares what others think?

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #46 on:** August 05, 2007, 01:24:30 AM »

need some testimony for some other happy campers http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,123084.0.html

irold · « **Reply #47 on:** August 05, 2007, 04:10:24 AM »

Oh come on, LLoyd , Tell us how you really feel !

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #48 on:** August 05, 2007, 06:22:20 AM »

Allways do!!

Quote from: irold on August 05, 2007, 04:10:24 AM

Oh come on, LLoyd , Tell us how you really feel !

Savage · « **Reply #49 on:** August 05, 2007, 11:41:03 AM »

Like Lloyd, I have no brand fixation, and don't feel that my possessions are an extension of my character. I say buy what you like and live with the consequences! It's been my observation that it's usually new, inexperienced gun owners that feel the need to defend their choices, and tout their worth over all others. I own examples of most common manufacturer's guns. They all have their good points, some have their perhaps, not so good points. I am quick to give an opinion when asked, sometimes without being asked

, but that's all it is, one man's opinion. I base my opinion on my experiences, not on those of others. Still I would be foolish to ignore all the information around me. In my opinion, based on that information, I must conclude that QC and CS for Taurus needs a major overhaul!! I will keep the PT 1911 that I have, but would not buy another Taurus product. Fortunately I own more than a few 1911s and will not need to use Taurus CS for any parts failures I might have. I can fix any problems that might occur with this platform, short of catastrophic slide or frame failure.
Savage

williamlayton · « **Reply #50 on:** August 05, 2007, 11:25:34 PM »

Well now, here we are again, all amix in- if we all fell in love with the same woman.
Brands---makes and models. Brands are an indication, earned reputation and while you may find a diamond in a box of rocks I tend to look for diamonds where other fellers have had success.
Seems as though this personal opinion has turned into a convincing session---Hummmm!
I wouldn't buy a Taurus.
Don't mean I dislike anybody who does, however; I won't buy one.
I can make my own mistakes without buying something I am not convinced will work---and good.
Blessings

akr · « **Reply #51 on:** August 08, 2007, 01:35:37 PM »

Quote from: myronman3 on August 04, 2007, 02:52:19 PM

Quote from: akr on August 03, 2007, 11:02:35 AM
I don't sell any of my guns, especially a 1911 Taurus. Resale value is insignificant to Taurus 1911 owners. Even if you did want to sell it, at least you didn't get screwed on the purchase price, and lose hundreds.

insignifigant? you are nuts. sometimes life happens and it is always nice to have a way to come up with some money. maybe YOU never sell any of your guns, but to say everone who owns a pt1911 doesnt care about resale value is a pretty stupid statement. and screwed? dad said he paid just under 600 for his, and for that i can pick up a used kimber and have twice the gun, a company that will stand behind it, and the ability to recoup every penny i paid for it if i ever wanted to.
i never slammed on taurus. just told ya what i thought of the 1911 i shot and what i think of the way they handle customers that have all too frequent problems. dont get mad at the messenger..... i have seen more than one taurus fan change their tune after they get a dose of taurus customer service.
myself, i will pay twenty extra dollars and have mine say kimber on the side.

What made you think I was mad? I was never mad, but I know who is. Your dad paid too much for his. How can it be twice the gun when they both have mim parts? Gee, I didn't know I could get a Kimber for $489.99. Can't I tell you what I think of the Taurus, or is this just a one way street here? You called me nuts and stupid. Where is the moderator?

akr · « **Reply #52 on:** August 08, 2007, 01:42:40 PM »

Quote from: myronman3 on August 04, 2007, 02:54:40 PM

Quote from: akr on August 03, 2007, 10:57:50 AM
Depends on the employee you get. You can say that about any place. Don't make a blanket judgement of a huge business by a bad apple.

you are the kind of guy who has his mind made up, and no matter what anyone else has experienced, you simply wont admit nothing. talk to those who have had problems and pray that you never do.

Oh!! You mean that you don't have YOUR mind made up, no matter what the reviews are on the Pt 1911 (professional and gun owners)? Hmmmmm, something isn't right here. Many more people have NOT had problems. I have heard more "ragging" on Kimber than anything else.

greener · « **Reply #53 on:** September 01, 2007, 01:24:00 AM »

Too bad kansas45 hasn't updated his opinion after a year or a post on this thread by any other shooter who has put a gozillian rounds through one. I'm not an expert on 1911's although I've shot them (military issue) for over 30 years. The PT1911 is the first 1911 I've owned. I've had it for about 3 months and have shot about 1000 rounds of the cheapest .45 ammo I can find. Mechanically the pistol has shot flawlessly. Accuracy has been excellent except for one box of Independence 230gr FMJ. Same session switch to WWB and the pistol shot sub 2" groups at 15 yards. The only thing I didn't like about the pistol was the grips and that was a $20, 3-minute fix. The only things I have to judge the PT1911 on is that it has functioned flawlessly and shot accurately at 15 and 25 yards. Can't tell you how it shoots at shorter ranges because I've never shot it shorter. Except for one box of ammo, any lack of accuracy has been the guy pulling the trigger and not the pistol.

Is the PT1911 "better" than the high end 1911's? Nope. I've shot a few and they were darned nice shooters. I've also fired some of the low-end 1911's and they were darn nice shooters. I'm not willing to blow the bucks on a $1500-$2500 pistol. Heck, I've been on the range and got to listen to a guy tell me just how much he spent on his Kimber, initially, and how much on all the mods and how bad my PT1911 was. Funny thing, I was griping about not getting under 2" groups at 15 yards and he was happy to get under 6" groups at 10 yards. He probably had a better pistol than I did, have a feeling his accuracy didn't have much to do with the pistol.

Prior to buying the PT1911, I hadn't paid too much attention to Taurus postings. Every Taurus I'd fired shot very well except the PT22. It seems that the majority of the folks who don't like Taurus don't own one and just don't like them because someone else said they weren't good or knew someone who knew someone that had problems. Very few, the Taurus is a bad gun and here are the facts, posts.

I own a PT1911 and like it so far. I wouldn't buy another one (unless I found one at a price I couldn't turn down) because I have one. If (when) I buy another 1911, it will be a different manufacturer. But then I wouldn't buy a duplicate of any other handgun I own.

Enough of my morning rant. Time to go shooting and hope the targets don't jump as the bullet gets there.

Good shooting.

myronman3 · « **Reply #54 on:** September 01, 2007, 04:20:08 AM »

i used to own some taurus guns. one of the raging bulls when they came out, and a 38 snubby. the snubby was a gritty pos and the bull i really liked. dad has a 357 that is one of the most accurate 357's i have ever shot. and dad also has the pt1911 which he really likes. i shot the gun, looked it over, made a few minor improvements on it and told ya'll what i thought of it. i thought i was pretty fair in my assessment.

all i am saying is look at the way taurus customer service treats others. what you think they are going to do to you if you need them? at best, they might take care of you. personally, i like to KNOW that i will be taken care of.

maybe some of you are gambling men. i am not.

poncaguy · « **Reply #55 on:** September 02, 2007, 02:36:15 PM »

I shot with kansas45 yesterday and today. I bought a PT 1911 because of him. Mine has been perfect so far. His too, though he is having a little problem with accuracy. He has an RIA 1911 that he has built up which he likes better I think. I've shot it and it is nice. I get good accuracy with mine, better than my Glock 22 40/357/9.....

kansas45 · « **Reply #56 on:** September 02, 2007, 03:04:50 PM »

OK you guy's! Here is my PT1911. It has 7000 rounds, more or less through it now. I shot with poncaguy yesterday & today. Yesterday, I shot well with it. Today I couldn't hit the side of a barn if I was inside of the thing! I didn't know why, but poncaguy explained it to me. Said I was just a lousy shot! Like he said, he bought one a while back, & likes it very much. I'm sure the problem today was just me, but it isn't a normal thing for the PT to miss like that. I'll go back to the range in the morning & check it out. I like this pistol a lot & I havent had any thing break or wear out since I bought it.
Here's what I've been doing pistol wise lately.

It's a Rock Island Armory 1911 GI. I've changed all of the trigger parts & added a Beaver Tail. When the weather gets nasty again I'll do some more stuff to it. This being a 1911 mechanic is kind' habit forming!