Author Topic: Drilling/Combo pictures (Read 37806 times)

dougk · « **on:** July 23, 2006, 01:57:39 PM »

I know we have pictures posted throughout the forum, please feel free to post your pictures in this post so everyone can easily see the great Drilling and Combination guns.

This is the Baikal IZH-94 in 30-06/12 ga. and it is setup for night predator hunting.

Drilling Man · « **Reply #1 on:** July 27, 2006, 01:48:10 PM »

Here's my Savage 2400 chambered in 12/222 Rem.. (mfg. by Valmet) The 2400 has a smaller and lighter frame than Valmets later 412 models.

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This combo is VERY accurate, i wish i had some targets to show you.... I haven't shot it in years, but i hope to change that soon!!

Drilling Man

dougk · « **Reply #2 on:** July 29, 2006, 12:55:49 PM »

Drilling where is the Krieghof???

Drilling Man · « **Reply #3 on:** July 30, 2006, 03:05:26 PM »

Well, i figured you all was sick of seeing picts of my drilling by now!! [mg]http://www.fototime.com/{D65BFCC3-F4CE-4817-AE15-EC94F7C149D3}/picture.GIF[/img]

"OK", here's a couple more....
Drilling Man

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AkMike1 · « **Reply #4 on:** August 18, 2006, 01:23:05 PM »

Here's some of my "new" baby. 16X16X8x57R.
Does anyone have suggested loads for it after I round up some brass, ect,.
Thanks

Drilling Man · « **Reply #5 on:** August 19, 2006, 03:40:25 AM »

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Here's some of my "new" baby. 16X16X8x57R.
Does anyone have suggested loads for it after I round up some brass, ect,.

First thing you need to do is find out if it's .318" bore or .323" bore?? You can't load anything for it untill you find this out. You even need to know this before buying loading dies for it.

I still think the RWS brass is the best, and that's what i'd be looking for...

What maker is it? Is it tight? How about a few more pictures, like with it opened up? How heavy is it? Accessories??

Thanks for showing it to us.

Drilling Man

AkMike1 · « **Reply #6 on:** August 19, 2006, 06:24:01 AM »

I'll be glad to post some more pics after it gets here. I just bought it and it's enroute now. The seller said it was on face and tight. We'll see.... I'm still looking for another type of drilling for me. A double rifle SXS and a shotty tube under them. Much more rare as I understand it, but it'd work better for here in this area. I use DR's from 500BPE down to a 9.3X72 and love them.
I am aware of the diameter differences between the J and S. But thanks. I'm happy with Norma brass that I'm using in others. They've improved in the last couple of years.
I won't keep this one too long, Iwas planning on giving it to my brother that is stateside.

Drilling Man · « **Reply #7 on:** August 19, 2006, 08:30:31 AM »

Hi Mike,

You never said the diameter of the 8x57, so i thought i'd better mention it to you....

So, your looking for a double rifle drilling,

I'm surprised your looking for one in 9.3x72R though. In the 25 years i lived in Alaska, i hunted all over the state from the Brooks Range to out on the Aleutions slands.... There's no way i would have been happy with a 72R for my hunting.... Maybe ? a 74R but not a 72R for sure...

The 8x57jrs has more power than a 72R and i've drug my drilling all over the state harvesting moose ect with it.... I also used my 9.3x74R double rifle there too.

Anyway, glad you found a nice drilling to hunt with, and good luck on your search.

Drilling Man

AkMike1 · « **Reply #8 on:** August 19, 2006, 09:59:37 AM »

Trust me I'd prefer to have a 74 DR/drilling ALOT more than a 72! I have a Chapuis DR being built for me now and I have a Pedersoli 74 now . I like the 74!!!! It'll be headed to Kodiak this fall for deer and as a back up for a guy with a bear tag.
My 72 DR appears to be made by Fanzoj of Austria about 1906.. (by the proof numbers) No name is shown.
http://www.fanzoj.com/kontaktgb.htm

Who made that beautiful one you show? That is a work of art!

BTW I just realized I've been here 40 years already.

S.B. · « **Reply #9 on:** September 30, 2006, 04:57:37 AM »

Quote from: Drilling Man on July 30, 2006, 03:05:26 PM

Well, i figured you all was sick of seeing picts of my drilling by now!! [mg]http://www.fototime.com/{D65BFCC3-F4CE-4817-AE15-EC94F7C149D3}/picture.GIF[/img]

"OK", here's a couple more....
Drilling Man

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One view shows a shotgun barrel, a rimfire barrel, and a ceterfire rifle barrel. The next show two shotgujn barrels and a centerfire rifle barrel? How do you manage this?

Drilling Man · « **Reply #10 on:** September 30, 2006, 07:55:27 AM »

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One view shows a shotgun barrel, a rimfire barrel, and a ceterfire rifle barrel. The next show two shotgujn barrels and a centerfire rifle barrel? How do you manage this?

It was really quite easy... I reached into my pocket and pulled out a key that "unlocked" the Krieghoff "insert" that's in the right bbl.. I then slid it out and that turns "that" bbl. back into a shot bbl...

I have two of the inserts for this drilling, one in 22lr. and the other in 22 Win. mag.... Both are a precision made insert and very accurate... For the most part, they shoot comparable to a bolt action 22...

I like to carry one in my pack, so that i can slip it in for small game hunting for "camp meat"....

DM

mbyoh · « **Reply #11 on:** January 30, 2007, 03:00:49 AM »

I had posted these pictures of my Simson Suhl cape gun on another thread, but Doug asked me to post them here. It is a 16ga X 25-35 caliber combo that I traded my drilling for.

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I also wanted to post some pictures of my Tikka Combo in 12ga X .222. I really like this gun also. I replaced the open sight with a peep sight and really like this setup. Iuse it more often this way than with the scope.
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Both of these are excellent turkey guns.

no guns here · « **Reply #12 on:** March 19, 2007, 03:05:35 AM »

How do you like the SIMSON? I've found some here in Germany (online) but none in the gun stores yet. The used Simson's are about the same price as a used Sauer but I've never heard of them until recently. They look okay but I need a first hand eval... the ones I've seen online are 16xsomething. Hardly any 12'sxsomething for sale online. Went to Franconia Jagd (upper level hunting/outdoors store here in Stuttgart last week. Mentioned to the salesman that I was possibly looking for drilling. The first thing he showed me was a Kreighoff... I didn't even get it in my hands before I had to say "no". I told him I have four kids and they have to eat... Looked at the Blaser, really nice but with a weird recoil block in the receiver. Hopefully I can find what I'm looking for in the next month or two. Of course then I'll have to change my name on Graybeard's...

no guns here...

S.B. · « **Reply #13 on:** March 19, 2007, 04:04:16 AM »

Quote from: AkMike1 on August 19, 2006, 06:24:01 AM

I'll be glad to post some more pics after it gets here. I just bought it and it's enroute now. The seller said it was on face and tight. We'll see.... I'm still looking for another type of drilling for me. A double rifle SXS and a shotty tube under them. Much more rare as I understand it, but it'd work better for here in this area. I use DR's from 500BPE down to a 9.3X72 and love them.
I am aware of the diameter differences between the J and S. But thanks. I'm happy with Norma brass that I'm using in others. They've improved in the last couple of years.
I won't keep this one too long, Iwas planning on giving it to my brother that is stateside.

???What did you say? Please, explain the accronyms, and excuse my ignorance?

no guns here · « **Reply #14 on:** March 19, 2007, 10:50:10 PM »

Acronyms and abbreviations...

SxS = side by side seems obvious until you realize that Europe produces a lot of over/under double rifles
DR = double rifle
J and S = refers to the 8mm cartrigdes chambered in Mausers for the German military way back in the day. Really in the German designations it is I and S. Started off with the 8x57 I for "infanterie" with a certain diameter bullet (.318) and changed to 8x57 IS for "infanterie spitzkugel" with a pointed bullet but a slightly larger diameter bullet (.323). Definitely NOT interchangeable. People still get hurt in Europe trying to interchange them. Putting the I in an S just leads to bad accuracy. Putting and S in an I leads to blown barrels, hands, eyes etc. The 8x57I (sometimes J) was for the old Mauser 88. The 8x57IS was for the WWII era Mauser 98. Also, to make it fun there is an 8x57ISR which is a rimmed cartridge with a .323 bullet for use in single shots, double rifles, combo guns, drillings and vierlings.

Did that help?

ngh

Drilling Man · « **Reply #15 on:** March 20, 2007, 03:43:34 AM »

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Also, to make it fun there is an 8x57ISR which is a rimmed cartridge

Actually it's "IRS" or "JRS" not the other way around, and some old break open guns just say 8x57R, but all of those that i've seen were .318" bore...

All of the ammo that i have for my drilling is head stamped "JRS".

DM

Sir Charles deMoutonBlack · « **Reply #16 on:** March 22, 2007, 05:23:34 AM »

.444 Marlin cases and 8 x 57 dies get you 8x 57R brass that work for either bore size. I found that taking it the next step to 7 x 57R left me with neck wrinkled, but useable brass.

Drilling Man · « **Reply #17 on:** March 22, 2007, 10:29:05 AM »

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.444 Marlin cases and 8 x 57 dies get you 8x 57R brass that work for either bore size. I found that taking it the next step to 7 x 57R left me with neck wrinkled, but useable brass.

I wouldn't care to use "reformed" .444 Marlin cases in my 8x57JRS as the rim is completely different. I'm not even sure my gun would close with the 444's rim thickenss. And as my drilling is "on face" and tight, i don't think i'd do it...

I guess i could chuck them in my lathe and alter them before sizeing them, but the RWS brass is excelent, so that's what i use...

DM

mbyoh · « **Reply #18 on:** March 22, 2007, 01:25:02 PM »

no guns here,

Sorry I missed your question. I do like the Suhl Simson. The gun is old (1930's) and shows honest wear, though no abuse. It locks up vault tight. It shoulders well and much to my delight it shoots well. For some reason I wasn't shooting well with my 16 X 16 X 9.3X72R drilling and was getting annoyed with the scarcity of reloading components for it. The Simson shoots 25-35 and 6.5 X 52R ammo both very well. The leaf sights are right on and the scope is zeroed in well ,though I have to get the extremely tight focusing ring loosened up somehow. The gun does not have fancy game scene engraving like the drilling, but has a modest amount of scroll engraving. The finish is not a high blue, but rather a dull matte blue-brown as I understand was popular on these guns that saw most of their life in Africa. For less than 2 grand, I think I got a lot of gun, and in a maybe not mainstream caliber, but a really great old American cartridge that is still readily available, reloadable, and has a good reputation for accuracy and put-down power on medium size game.

I'm happy with it and don't miss the drilling nearly as much as I thought I might. I'll probably get another drilling, but my dream is one from the Three Barrel Gun Company (Hollingbeck, an older American made drilling in some neat old classic American cartridges.

Mike

no guns here · « **Reply #19 on:** March 22, 2007, 08:50:44 PM »

Thanks for the info on the Simson. I have been on some German sites that were listing several brands as xxxx-Suhl. Finally had a buddy tell me that Suhl (a city in Germany) is the cradle of the german gun making trade. And I had been thinking it was a style or type of drilling...

Now for the bad news... I took the family to a couple of gun stores here in Germany (and will be hitting the gun show this weekend), my wife and my daughter have decided that they each need a drilling. This is going to get expensive...

If you all just want to look at some nice drillings and combo guns try:

www.gebrauchtwaffenprofi.de , click on "suche" (search)
When the menu comes up, click on "hauptkategorie" (main catagory) for langwaffen (long guns)\
Click on "untererkategorie" (sub catagory) for kombiertienwaffen (combination guns)
Click on Suche Starten (start search) at the bottom.

Navigation at the bottom of the page is "vor" (forward), "letzte Seite" (last page), "erste Seite" (first page), "zuruck" (back)

Of course there are links to other german gun sites from this one as well...

Busterbrown · « **Reply #20 on:** March 26, 2007, 02:50:14 PM »

Hi guy's here are a few pictures of my FERLACH COMBO!!

Made in 1958 BY MASTER GUN SMITH LUDWIG BORBUNIK

Chambered in 12 ga over 30.06 and it is a shooter!!

Busterbrown

Drilling Man · « **Reply #21 on:** March 27, 2007, 03:49:38 AM »

You guys sure have some GREAT looking guns!!! I hope you all hunt with them too!!

DM

dougk · « **Reply #22 on:** March 27, 2007, 03:21:30 PM »

Buster that is a great gun. Have you had a chance to dispatch any game with it? Also if you twist my arm I could be tempted to trade you my Baikal in 12/30-06.

Busterbrown · « **Reply #23 on:** March 28, 2007, 10:38:50 AM »

Dougk,

I'm not a hunter!!!! only a plunker

But I go to the range 2-3 times a week and the FERLACH is my take with gun every time

Busterbrown

Drilling Man · « **Reply #24 on:** March 28, 2007, 11:01:40 AM »

Hey Buster,

Not everyone likes to hunt, but at least you use your combi... Too many folks buy a nice firearm and then are afraid too take in out and use it in a way they enjoy, and that's a shame!!

DM

Swampman · « **Reply #25 on:** October 11, 2007, 12:16:27 PM »

Savage .30-30/20

ncoutdoorsman · « **Reply #26 on:** November 06, 2007, 11:09:49 AM »

Hey Doug,

Can you tell us a little about that light on top of your scope? Is that IR? Do you use night vision to see the IR? Is it visible to the naked eye or only powered optics? Very Cool Rig!

dougk · « **Reply #27 on:** November 06, 2007, 02:30:03 PM »

That is an Optronics Night Blaser with a red lens cover. It is an ok night scope. I think there are better products on the market.

90north · « **Reply #28 on:** November 25, 2007, 07:33:20 AM »

Here's a picture of my Staggs Built 20 gauge over 30-30. Was built in Phoenix AZ, hammerless with double triggers.

[Please excuse the work bench, altho I'm sure some of you have one just as bad.

dougk · « **Reply #29 on:** January 06, 2008, 02:21:15 PM »

Here is the Valmet 412 in 12/9.3x74R. The IM choke on the shotgun lets me shoot slugs or 00 buck shot and the 9.3x74R well its on the way back.

Here is a picture showing the 9.3x74R Norma 286 gr Alaska and a Winchester Supreme 165 gr failsafe.

Doug