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Offline jamaldog87

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good hunting guns?
« on: July 29, 2006, 10:44:31 AM »
which one i a very good hunting gun? the Bosnian M48 Mauser Rifle, Cal. 8mm,British Enfield No. 4 MK I Rifle Cal. .303 British,German K98 Rifle, Cal. 8mm,Mosin Nagant 1938 Carbine, Cal. 7.62x54R,Original  Rifle Drilled & Tapped for Sniper Scope & Mount, Cal. 7.62x54R,or the Yugoslavian M59/66 Rifle, Cal. 7.62x39mm? i know the 7.62x54 is about a 308 in power.
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Re: good hunting guns?
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2006, 11:27:35 AM »
Any of them would work just fine the 762x39 for deer only and smaller the others just about anything.  Other considerations would be a Mauser in 7x57 or a 6.5 Swede. Or the K 31. Out of all of them I kept my 7x57 my 6.5 Swede amd my K31 and set them up as hunting rifles. The rest I got rid of  my 8mm mausers and my Mosins as they were not as accurate as the 3 I kept. Not saying others would not be accurate. I had found that the 8mm and the Russian rifles I had were ok and that was about it. On the other hand my Swede and Swiss rifles are very accurate and my 7x57 is not that bad either.
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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2006, 12:52:51 AM »
As stated all of them mentioned will take deer sized game.  There have probably been lots of deer taken with the 7.62x39 but that one would be my least desirable.  You didn't mention any distance you might be shooting from.

I like the 8mm myself.  All of my 8mm's are accurate.  The Mosins are good but I had to handload for mine to get them to shoot accurately.  As mentioned the K31 is good also.  Here is what my K98 will do at 100 yards.  This is with my reloads but my K98 will shoot the mil-surplus ammo almost as well.

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Re: good hunting guns?
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2006, 12:23:02 PM »
Jack I wish my 8mm's would have shot that good I could not get them to shoot that well at 50 let alone a 100 and that was with milsurp, reloads or factory ammo. THe one turk I had had a great looking bore but it did not shoot that well. The bore looked os good I even had a peep put on it and it still only shot mediocre. Was not the crown either as I had that inspected before the gunsmith put the peep on.  On the other hand My Swede and K31 shoots very well.
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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2006, 04:59:46 AM »
All should work fine..
Keep the 7.62x39 inside of 150 yards and it is a fine woods cartridge.

7.62x54 with anything under 150 grains actually is in the 30-06 realm.

8mm Mauser actually will surpass the 30-06 in most non-American loadings.
  My load is a 170 grain bullet at 2600 fps. factory American loadings run about
  2300 on a good day.

6.5 Swede is Sweet! Flat trajectory, low recoil, accurate.

303 British needs to be reloaded to bring out it's full potential.
    American Loadings are anemic at best.
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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2006, 09:53:57 AM »
the range might be short(50 yards) to long (250 yards) and is the ammo from norma can be use in the 8mm? it says 8x57js and JRS from http://www.norma.cc/sida/eng/index.html.
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« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2006, 07:02:04 AM »
The norma is probably loaded to full pressure, But I have found it to be inaccurate in just about every caliber I have used it in. And also double the price per round of most compeditors also.
I would recommend the Sellier & Bellot stuff, Very accurate, nicely loaded to a good pressure level also and at a reasonable price. I hear the Wolf Gold stuff is pretty good also
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« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2006, 02:37:38 PM »
thanks for the help. i had a 8mm tanker but i shot it at the range only and sold it to someone that like it for 650$(he,he, :D :D ;) 8)
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« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2006, 05:10:38 AM »
I like the wolf gold by PVRI Partisan in 8mm. the 196 gr soft points shoot well for me.
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Re: good hunting guns?
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2006, 01:15:22 AM »
Nagant has a horrible safety for hunting.  I'd go with one of the Mausers.
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« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2006, 06:26:03 AM »
Quote from: Airsporter on August 25, 2006, 01:15:22 AM
Nagant has a horrible safety for hunting.  I'd go with one of the Mausers.

I a gree with Airsporter; the safety is the main consideration as all are adequate for most hunting except the 7.62x39.  It's limitations have already been discussed.  The safety on the Moisen Nagants is not very user friendly. Some have mastered it but it is still very hard and clumsy to use in a quick hunting situation.  If you hunt from a stand or blind and won't chamber a cartridge until getting ready to shoot then the Moisen Nagants are fine.  However, if stil hunting or stalking is in your hunting regimen the the Mauser, M1903, M1917 or SMLE are the best bet.  Seems you have several M98s available; that would be my choice of those listed.

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Re: good hunting guns?
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2006, 06:52:23 AM »
Quote from: Airsporter on August 25, 2006, 01:15:22 AM
Nagant has a horrible safety for hunting.  I'd go with one of the Mausers.

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I disagree...you just need to be handy!
I use my mosin m-44 with S&B 180gr Sp's for bear and occasionally coyotes. It sports a lightened trigger with over-travel, reduced creep, and crisp break. The action is epoxy bedded to the stock--which was re-shaped to a "sporter" type stock.The bayo lug has been removed and the muzzle re-crowned. Shoots just over 1" at 100 with GOOD ammo.
I removed ~3 coils and squared the end of the firing pin spring. Still functions 100% with all ammo I've tried (commercial and surp) and the safety is much easier to use. To be unique, the head on the safety was milled slighty smaller and a ring welded as a loop to put your finger in--makes it even easier. I can engage/disengage with zero noise.

Best $73 I've ever invested...and I can drop it, thump it, or get it wet with zero worries.
But seriously, take about 1/4 off your firing pin spring and you'll be pleasantly suprised--I've done this with 3 mosins now, and the safety is much easier to use, the bolt easier to rotate, and still 100% functional. You can also lighten the firing pin for quicker lock time.
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« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2006, 08:07:36 PM »
Sounds interesting on the mods. To be honest I got the same with a K31 did not have to weld the ring it was already there and a handier smoother bolt action already with one of the best triggers on a milsurp bar none.  Plus the bores on most K31's are pristine and accurate with no glass bedding needed.  ;D ;D ;D Still it sounds like ya got a handy Mosin there!  ;) And part of the fun with these is being able to tinker with them if you so desire. I know some may bristle at that but many of these guns will never  be collector pieces so why not sporterize them like they used after WWI ect.
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Re: good hunting guns?
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2006, 03:21:45 PM »
I'll agree the K31 is a much nicer rifle as far as fit/finish/accuracy is concerned...
but I got my mosin before the large flood of k31's ever hit the market. i do own one, and love it to death.

I choose my M-44 for a brush gun, however, because it is short, light, quick to shoulder, cheap, and the least rare of all nagant variants. It appeard unused (post war) when I purchased it.
You can learn a lot about 'smithing on these old rifles!
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Re: good hunting guns?
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2006, 06:04:33 PM »
The Winchester 180 gr. loads at 2460fps is a good ammo choice for .303
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Re: good hunting guns? M95 Chilean Mauser
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2006, 03:16:21 PM »
Cut one down and crowned it back in 1960 - 7x57 - made a super saddle carbine - hunted mulies and javilina with
it for years! Just had it out again a few months ago - what a sweetheart!

I've got (many) newer rifles and (many) bigger rifles but 'I ain't got no BETTER rifles!'

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« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2006, 04:10:46 PM »
I found the PMC 170 grain 8mm to be fairly accurate in my mauser 24/47. I tried the sellier 196 grain 2 weeks ago and my shoulder is still hurting after firing 2 rounds.
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Re: good hunting guns?
« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2006, 02:32:23 PM »
20+ Whitetail deer and a cow moose fell using this rifle , using Winchester 180gr soft points .



This year I've decided to stop using it with the original stocks and set it up like this


Quite frankly the Lee Enfield ( No1 or No4 ) has dropped more big game in Canada than any of the others listed .
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« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2006, 03:44:52 PM »
Nice Lee. I mounted my Lee on one of those composite stocks since the original military sock was all beat up. I couldn't even get 2 foot groups at 50 yards. I've ordered a new military wood stock. Did you have any experience with these composites.
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