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Offline BradCoPAHunter

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Need help picking low power variable scope
« on: August 02, 2006, 03:31:24 PM »
I'm looking for a lightweight, low power variable scope to top off my Marlin 336.  I was all set to get a Weaver Classic V 1-3x 20mm, but then I noticed Burris' Fullfield II 1.75-5x 20mm was in the same price range.  I wasn't even considering the inexpensive Bushnells, but their Banner 1.5-4.5x 32mm had some suprisingly good reviews.  Out of these three scopes, what do you folks recommend?  Thanks.

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Re: Need help picking low power variable scope
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2006, 01:56:25 AM »
I hate to say it, but none of your choices with be on my gun, but that is just me. If you want a good low power scope look at the Leupold VXII 1X4X20mm.  But if you are set in your choices, go with the Weaver Classic V 1-3x 20mm.
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Re: Need help picking low power variable scope
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2006, 12:40:20 PM »
I've looked at the Burris several times in the last week.......If you look on the burris website they do a comparison between the VXII, the Nikon Monarch and their FF II......

The FFII is starting to appear to me to be one of the best in that price range......

I've also been looking at the warranties and most major brands are now lifetime on material and manufacturing defects.

Most, except Leupold, are origional owner with a receipt.

The Bushnell elite line has a one year no questions asked warranty and life time on material and workmanship.

All the leupolds have a transferable warranty with no receipt and most Leupold owners who have had to use the warranty say they are no questions asked period.

There are some scopes that are as good and superior to the leupolds.  I don't think you'll find any manufacturer that is better at customer service or who stands behind their product any better than Leupold.  The customer does pay for that up front as that is included in the purchase price of the Leupold.
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Re: Need help picking low power variable scope
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2006, 02:57:27 PM »
Thanks for your advice.  I wish my local sporting goods stores stocked a wide variety of low power rifle scopes so I could compare them side by side.  All the low powers I find locally are for shotguns or muzzleloaders, and I don't like the thick reticles on them.  I'd like to get a Leupold, but right now I don't have the extra money.  If Nikon made a compact low power I'd probably look there too.  However, bear season is coming up, and I'd really like to scope my gun because I can't get good groups with the factory open sights.  I'm just looking for a clear reliable scope that will work for a season or two until I can upgrade to something better.

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Re: Need help picking low power variable scope
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2006, 03:10:22 PM »
I have a Mueller 2-7x32 Multishot on one of my Marlins.  It is by far my favorite.  The reticle is great for quick shots and can be used on a shotgun.  The optics are up there with the Leupolds.  I have several and can not tell the difference.

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Re: Need help picking low power variable scope
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2006, 02:44:28 AM »
No real suggestions for choosing between your nominees but will confirm that you are on the right track.  I have an OLD steel Weaver V4.5 in Leupold QR/SuperLow rings on my 336/.35 and love it, shoots Hornady 200 gr. pills into 1.5", or less, 100 yd. groups all the time.  Got the QR mount setup so I could easily remove the scope if needed but it has been so reliable for so long that I removed both iron sights a few years ago to get rid of the "brush hooks." ( I hate those "shoot-thru" mounts that force us to hold our heads up like a spooked turkey to shoot!)

I sometimes wish I had a thicker (shotgun type) reticle tho, especially in low light or for running snap shots.  That's a lot more frequent than any need for precision shooting with fine crosshairs!  And the shotgun/ML scopes are usually parallax corrected for about 100 yds so that makes them very well suited to the .30-30 and .35 cartridges in the deep woods. 
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Re: Need help picking low power variable scope
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2006, 03:15:22 AM »
I looked at all your choices yesterday.  The Burris FFII is the brightest and clearest of the 3 IMO.

While not really a low powered scope, I've been very impressed with a Nikon Prostaff in the 3 X 9.  To me, it's the best in that price range and much clearer and brighter than the bushnell banner.
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Re: Need help picking low power variable scope
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2006, 04:50:07 AM »
If you get a chance also look at the Sightron SII1.56x42.  An excellent scope for $220.
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Re: Need help picking low power variable scope
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2006, 04:02:31 PM »
A gun will shoot no better than the sights you have on it. Like Red Hawk , I`m  Leupold fan, I have abt. 30 of them. I use them on my centerfire rifles, rimfire rifles, centerfire handgun, rimfire handguns, and even on shotguns. For a rimfire make sure you get a scope with adjustable parrlex or one with parrlex set for the .22 rimfire.

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Re: Need help picking low power variable scope
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2006, 10:17:51 PM »
                         I have a Banner 1.5-4.5X32mm Wide Angle scope mounted on my Marlin 336CS. Redfield single piece base and turn in rings(low) complete the mount. The scope is 10 1/2" in length and 10.5 ounces in weight. Good scope for the price. Only fault was that my gunsmith had to drill new holes in the base in order to move the base rearward to establish proper eye relief for me. The existing holes placed the scope too far forward for me. Extension rings could also be used to provide for proper eye relief. I have little experience with scopes so cannot say whether spending more for more(how much more?) light transmission or clarity is worth it in hunting situations. If I had money to spare I might have gone with a Leupold. My rifle has the crossbolt safety so I use it and didn't bother with adding a hammer spur and using the 1/2 cock safety. I find the CS easy to operate. I have a Bushnell Elite 3200 2-7X32mm fitted on a muzzle loader and in the failing light I find no image difference between the Banner and the Elite. One no brighter than the other, go figure? $110 vs $289, hummmm??               BC

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Re: Need help picking low power variable scope
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2006, 06:03:17 AM »
It's too bad we've all gone the way of the variables.  Don't misunderstand me, I own mostly variables and they're a great thing.  But for short-range guns they are truly unneccessary.

There used to be a real great scope called a 3X.  They are few and far between nowadays.  And few of us have experienced them, which is a pity.  They were the best on the kind of rifle you're talking about.

As a case in point let me relay a story.  Several years ago one of my sons got hold of an old .243.  It was wearing an old Weaver 3X.  The reticle was a heavy post and horizontal line.  We both laughed at it.  But the boy was strapped for cash so decided to try it for deer hunting that year.  He found it entirely adequate, even began to see advantages to it.  As for having only 3X's, he had no problem shooting deer to 300 yds. with it.

The boy eventually got the variable bug and bought a good 3X9.  It works well, also.  Then Dad (yours truly) needed a low-power scope for hunting deer in the forest with his .45-70.  The generous lad gave me the "obsolete" 3X Weaver.

The old scope was needing some attention so I located the fellow down in Texas who refurbishes old Weavers and sent it off to him.  He gave it a thorough going-over, even replacing the erector assembly, for $38.

You didn't mention what caliber your lever rifle is but I'd bet you'd be delighted if you could strap my "obsolete" 3X on it for a season.  No joke, it's the best short range scope made.  That post is fast.  It shows up better than any of my "dual X's" in dim light.  It's powerful enough for any reasonable shot.  I have over a dozen variables, all of good quality.  They are Leupolds, Burrises, and Weavers.  I even have a Bushnell Red Dot.  But for a short-range deer scope on a short-range rifle that old 3X is the best yet.  Too bad they're so hard to find nowadays.

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Re: Need help picking low power variable scope
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2006, 06:20:13 AM »
2x7 Muellers.....very, very good scopes..and I have Lupie, Burris, Simmons, Nikon, Swift.............Bushnell.......Mueller is as good as the best of the others..

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Re: Need help picking low power variable scope
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2006, 07:17:43 AM »
I hate to say it, but none of your choices with be on my gun, but that is just me. If you want a good low power scope look at the Leupold VXII 1X4X20mm.  But if you are set in your choices, go with the Weaver Classic V 1-3x 20mm.

I agree.  In fact, I would even be hesitant about the Weaver Classic.  The Weaver Grand Slam is a great scope that I would definately buy over the Classic (although I don't think that it is offered in such a low power range).

Take a good look at the Bushnell Elite 1.5x-4.5x scope.  I have one on my .375H&H Mag and it has performed FLAWLESSLY!!!!  I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT.  I bought it from Jon at the opticzone and I couldn't be happier.

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Re: Need help picking low power variable scope
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2006, 12:54:04 PM »
Zachary - I am looking for a modestly priced scope to put on my .375H&H.  By "modest" I mean under $300.  I have a Simmons Whitetail Expedition 1.5-6 now, which advertises 3" of eye relief.  Actually, it's about 4 at 1.5 power, and 3.75" at 6 power.  Even so, it's unusable for me at anything above 3 power.

I've got Leupold and Bushnell elites on my other rifles.  I'd really like the most eye relief I can get.  I'm thinking either the Elite 3200 1.5-4.5 or the VX-III in 2-7.

Your thoughts?

Thanks!