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Offline NYHunter

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760/7600 Barrel Length
« on: August 24, 2006, 10:30:06 PM »
Greetings! I'm new to this forum, glad to see so many pump / semi-auto fans. I'm a big fan of the pump action rifle myself.

I've been trying to locate a .308  760 carbine in good condition. Well, I haven't even been able to find one in poor condition. So I'm thinking of going with a 7600 rifle in .308, have the barrel cut to 18.5" or 20", and I'll probably go with a Williams reveiver sight. I know I can get the carbine in the '06 but I really would like the .308.

I already have a 760 rifle in .30-06 & .300 Sav. both shoot very well. And I also have a BAR .308 carbine (20" barrel) which I haven't shot yet.  Look forward to your hearing your comments.

Thanks....NYHunter

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Re: 760/7600 Barrel Length
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2006, 02:43:26 AM »
I have NEVER seen a used .308 carbine version of the 760.  Finding one could be very frustrating. Sounds like you want to set up for hunting Larry Benoit style.

The 7600's have higher comb stocks and not really designed for iron sight use.
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Re: 760/7600 Barrel Length
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2006, 04:36:19 AM »
From the Remington history page:

Firearm Model History
 
Model 760 "Gamemaster"
Description: Slide action, high-power hunting rifle which replaced the Remington Model 141 and was later replaced by the Remington Model 7600.
Introduction Year: 1952
Year Discontinued: 1981
Total Production: Approximately 1.03 million
Designer/Inventor: L.R. Crittendon & William Gail Jr.
Action Type: Slide action
Caliber/Gauge: .30-06 Sprg. – 1952
.300 Savage – 1952-1960
.35 Rem. – 1952-1967
.270 Win. – 1953
.257 Roberts – 1954-1961
.244 Rem. – 1957-1960
.308 Win. – 1957
.222 Rem. – 1958-1960
.280 Rem. – 1958-1967
.223 Rem. – 1964-1968
.243 Win. – 1968
.6mm Rem. – 1968
.35 Rem. – 1980 only
Serial Number Blocks: 1951-1967 1,000-541,000
1968-1975 6,900,000-7,499,999
1975-1978 A6,900,000-A7,499,999
1978-1981 B6,900,000-B7,499,999
Various Models: 760A Standard – 1952
760B Special – 1952
760D Peerless – 1952
760F Premier – 1952
760ADL – 1954
760BDL – 1966
150th Anniversary Edition – 1966
760BDL Left-hand - 1966
American Bicentennial Edition 1976
760C – 1960 (carbine)
760CDL – 1960 – 1964 (carbine)
 
If I am reading this right the .308 was only offered in 1957 and the carbine in 1960 thru 1964. If that is right then the 308 carbine was not offered. MIKE.


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Re: 760/7600 Barrel Length
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2006, 05:42:34 AM »
Take a look at the Remington model 7600 patrol rifle in 308.  I have one and love it, while it is slightly more expensive than a stock 7600 by the time you have the barrel cut and buy the sights you will probably save money.  Plus you get the Wilson sight which is much more robust than the Williams (not that the Williams is fragile) plus you get a rifle with a metal trigger guard assembly rather than plastic, and since the patrol rifle comes out of the L.E. shop the trigger is better than the standard 7600, not match grade but plenty good for a hunting rifle.  The barrel is 16 1/4" so you give up a little velocity over the 18 1/2" barrel and get a little more flash but if you are wanting a carbine, I imagine you are hunting the thick stuff anyway so the velocity loss is not that important and you probably won't notice the flash/blast when hunting. As the rifle comes out of the box, it is a great rifle for hunting the thick stuff or walking/stalking.  I have a scope base on my and carry a 4X scope in mounts that detach easily and return to zero when reattached for use if I decide to sit in an area where a longer shot is possible where I hunt a shot past 250 real yards is unheard of.  I don't keep the scope on the rifle all the time because it is so much more user friendly without it.  Hope this helps.

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Re: 760/7600 Barrel Length
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2006, 07:47:56 AM »
Take a look at the Remington model 7600 patrol rifle in 308.  I have one and love it, while it is slightly more expensive than a stock 7600 by the time you have the barrel cut and buy the sights you will probably save money.  Plus you get the Wilson sight which is much more robust than the Williams (not that the Williams is fragile) plus you get a rifle with a metal trigger guard assembly rather than plastic, and since the patrol rifle comes out of the L.E. shop the trigger is better than the standard 7600, not match grade but plenty good for a hunting rifle.  The barrel is 16 1/4" so you give up a little velocity over the 18 1/2" barrel and get a little more flash but if you are wanting a carbine, I imagine you are hunting the thick stuff anyway so the velocity loss is not that important and you probably won't notice the flash/blast when hunting. As the rifle comes out of the box, it is a great rifle for hunting the thick stuff or walking/stalking.  I have a scope base on my and carry a 4X scope in mounts that detach easily and return to zero when reattached for use if I decide to sit in an area where a longer shot is possible where I hunt a shot past 250 real yards is unheard of.  I don't keep the scope on the rifle all the time because it is so much more user friendly without it.  Hope this helps.

Excellent advice! I was thinking the very same thing as I was reading through the post. My friend has this carbine as well and he loves it. I had my .280 7600 cut down to 19"; it wears a Leupold Vari-X III 1.5 to 5X on it and I love it, but.... I'd like to get one of these patrol rifles for inclement weather.
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« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2006, 12:52:33 PM »
I had a Remington Mohawk 600 in 308 with a 18" barrel, great shooting rifle but the muzzle blast, and flash were quite distracting to say the least. I'd go no shorter than 20 if I were cutting. I'd go stock 22" or the Police rifle if I needed short.

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Re: 760/7600 Barrel Length
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2006, 03:23:40 PM »
Mike 103:

They began manufacturing the .308 in 1957 and have done to ever since, so carbines were available in .308 for a short while.

Rich56:

I also owned a 600 in .308 and found thge muzzle blast a bit distracting, but I didn't notice that problem with the 660 I owned in .308.  I'm guessing there was a factor other than barrel length (maybe twist rate).

My 760 carbine in .30-06 doesn't really produce noticeable muzzle blast either (when I use my handloads).

Interestingly (for me) is the fact that my 760 was manufactured in 1952.  So either the available info in the Blue Book is inaccurate, or my 760 had its barrel shortened (most likely).
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Re: 760/7600 Barrel Length
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2006, 12:00:58 PM »
760's in .308 were offered in carbine length from 1960 through 1980. The numbers I have are as follows:
C-Grade 1960 - 63: 2,588
CDL - grade 1961 - 63: 518
Standard grade 1964 - 67: 1,955
Standard grade 1968 - 80: 8,930

So a total of 13,991 760 carbines were produced. The only catalog models of 7600 carbines were in .30-06 introduced in 1987 and are still offered today. Remington hasn't been producing much other than .30-06 as a caliber choice for their 7600's. I was excited when they offered more caliber choices for the 750 Woodsmaster (.308, .30-06, & .35 Whelen) hoping that it will eventually transition over to the 7600's...

Rick - According to my info, Remington didn't produce carbine versions of the 760 until 1960 and the word "CARBINE" was stamped on the barrel after the caliber designation. In your case, I would also assume the barrel was shortened...
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Re: 760/7600 Barrel Length
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2006, 06:53:24 AM »
Hey DMF, is it really you, the deerslayer? Nice to see you over here at GB's. I did not get over to my buddies camp in Ware this year, otherwise I would have tried to get you out for a cup of coffee and some pointers on how to get the big buck...Merry Christmas to you and your family....<><.... :)
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Re: 760/7600 Barrel Length
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2006, 07:01:56 AM »
Current cataloged 7600 caliber choices include:
.243 WCF
.270 WCF
.308 WCF
.30-06 Springfield

This does not include special runs for the larger Remington distibutors like Grice.  Recent offerings:
.25-06 Remington
.35 Remington
.35 Whelen
7-08 Remington


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Re: 760/7600 Barrel Length
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2006, 10:39:18 AM »
Hey DMF, is it really you, the deerslayer? Nice to see you over here at GB's. I did not get over to my buddies camp in Ware this year, otherwise I would have tried to get you out for a cup of coffee and some pointers on how to get the big buck...Merry Christmas to you and your family....<><.... :)

Hi Andy, yup it's me! I was actually over here before DLuke dragged me over to the other site that I pretty much call home. I looked for lights on at your buddies camp but didn't see much activity there this year? Anyway, thanks for the wishes and a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and your family as well!



Current cataloged 7600 caliber choices include:
.243 WCF
.270 WCF
.308 WCF
.30-06 Springfield

This does not include special runs for the larger Remington distibutors like Grice.  Recent offerings:
.25-06 Remington
.35 Remington
.35 Whelen
7-08 Remington

That's what I show as well Lone Star but only the .30-06 is offered in a Carbine version from the factory. I think Grice's offers the .35 Remington in a Carbine but I am not sure. When I try to get on their site from work it comes up as a restricted site; weapons and bombs (probably sends an automatic e-mail to homeland security... ::))

I hope they offer the .243 for a while; I'd like to get one for my daughter except she's only 3 1/2 at the moment and it might be a hard sell to the wife... (but dear, this would be a perfect rifle for her in another 7 to 10 years...  ::);)
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Re: 760/7600 Barrel Length
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2006, 11:22:27 AM »
Yes, we were both busy this year, I only made it to my camp in Maine for 3 days ( :'() and he got up to his camp for only a few days also, hopefully next year. I am hoping to spend new years at my camp with a big fire in the stove and a perhaps a little coyote hunting thrown in for good measure, Merrry Christmas!!....<><.... :)
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