New smaller X frame?

[webrehm]

Do you guys think there is any possibility that SW will come out with a smaller X frame that can shoot 44,454,475 and 500 Special?

tks

Dennis

[waynemorgan]

not going to happen ! it would not be an X frame if they did

[webrehm]

It would be a new frame for 44,454,475 and 500 special, but based upon the X frame.

Dennis

[Dusty Miller]

Maybe they'd call it the "Y" frame or even the "WHY" frame??

[webrehm]

Why?  Because a lot of people are buying 44's that they can use Garrett or Buffalo Bore heavy loads in,  A SW 44 won't take the pressure.
Also a lot of people are buying 454's, in other brands. 
Dennis

[Graybeard]

Why?  Because a lot of people are buying 44's that they can use Garrett or Buffalo Bore heavy loads in,  A SW 44 won't take the pressure.
Also a lot of people are buying 454's, in other brands. 
Dennis

WRONG-O The S&W is fine using both Garrett and Buffalo Bore ammo. I use it in mine all the time. The rumors of the weakness of the S&W 29/629 are just that, wild rumors.

[Redhawk1]

Why?  Because a lot of people are buying 44's that they can use Garrett or Buffalo Bore heavy loads in,  A SW 44 won't take the pressure.
Also a lot of people are buying 454's, in other brands. 
Dennis

WRONG-O The S&W is fine using both Garrett and Buffalo Bore ammo. I use it in mine all the time. The rumors of the weakness of the S&W 29/629 are just that, wild rumors.

Thanks GB, I have been saying that for a while now. 

[webrehm]

And then there are those who want a 454 with a spec pressure limit of 65000psi.  I think the spec pressure limit for a 475 is at least 50000 psi.
Both buffalobore and garret do NOT recommend a SW be used with their +p+ 44 magnum ammunition.

Here is the quote from the buffalobore website for the +P+ 44 magnum load that they sell
"This new load is designed for only certain revolvers that have the cylinder length to handle it. They are as follows. Ruger Red Hawk, Taurus Raging Bull and Dan Wesson Revolvers."

Here is the quote from GarretCartridges
"THIS 44 MAGNUM  AMMO IS RECOMMENDED FOR USE IN RUGER AND DAN WESSON DOUBLE-ACTION REVOLVERS, AS WELL AS THE TAURUS RAGING BULL. IT IS ALSO RECOMMENDED FOR THE GARY REEDER 5-SHOT ULTIMATE 44 MAGNUM, AND THE JOHN GALLAGHER CUSTOM LONG-CYLINDER RUGER SINGLE-ACTIONS. THIS  AMMO SHOULD BE FIRED ONLY IN THOSE RECOMMENDED REVOLVERS! THIS AMMO IS BOTH TOO LONG AND GENERATES TOO MUCH CHAMBER PRESSURE FOR SAFE USE IN S&W AND RUGER SUPER BLACKHAWK REVOLVERS. IT IS ALSO TOO LONG FOR USE IN THE FREEDOM ARMS REVOLVER."

I think it very likely that SW would sell many guns that were set up to shoot the +p+ 44 magnums, 454, 475 and 500 specials.  Can a 629 handle the OAL and pressure of a 454?


Dennis

[Graybeard]

I still don't know why folks think the S&W cylinder is too short for them. It isn't. I have used them with complete satisfaction in the S&W and have told the same to Tim at BB. They are not too long to fit it.