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traditions single trigger how can I adjust it
« on: September 16, 2006, 11:05:14 AM »
Ok this may require a simple answer or a very extensive answer.  I just received my traditions deerhunter .32 cal in the mail yesterday and the trigger pull is atrosious.  my buddies lyman says 9.5 pounds.  I am not looking for a hair trigger but this just won't cut it for squirrel.   Any help will be appreciated.
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Re: traditions single trigger how can I adjust it
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2006, 03:50:16 PM »
Some metals are hardened after being formed.  If you take off that hardened metal, you will have problems unless the metal is rehardened.  Use caution, seek a gunsmith's recomendations.  Take the lock to a gunsmith and see what he says.  Traditions rifles are very accurate - but some parts anren't the quality of a more expensive rifle.

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Re: traditions single trigger how can I adjust it
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2006, 04:21:30 PM »
That trigger can be adjusted by a gunsmith. Someone on another board mentioned that a single screw in the lock eases it. Which one?... I dunno. I'll PM you a messageboard where you can start a thread asking for help. It's there wwhere I read the adjustment news around a year ago.
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Re: traditions single trigger how can I adjust it
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2006, 05:08:44 PM »
Thanks I am lucky enough to live near a muzzleloader only gunshop here in Pa I'll give it to him before I send it back to traditions.  Biff thanks for the PM Interesting that they are a Pa site.  I have searched for one like it before but never found this one.
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Re: traditions single trigger how can I adjust it
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2006, 04:45:43 AM »
Trigger pull on a single trigger is not complicated  however it does require some experience to find what needs to be done.
 From experience I can say that traditions does not inlet their trigger deep enough  for one thing . For the other the lock is not finished inside   and the tumblers are never polished completely as well as the top of the triggers not being polished and are ruff  .
 I have seen a couple of their locks with an adjustment screw on the tumbler . This is a shortcut to proper  building  IMO . However if you have one of these locks you can adjust the trigger pull here  . Be careful however that  the sear always has a good  bit of the tumbler to hook to . It is possible to  tighten this screw down so far the sear will not  catch the full cock . Also if  just barely catches this can not only cause  damage to the sear and tumbler ..

 Triggers do not have to be tempered steel  myself I prefer a softer steel where one can get a real smooth polish along the top edge as well as the contact edge of the sear . Any small burr  or ruff surface will  not only slow the ignition but will also  make the trigger pull much harder

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Re: traditions single trigger how can I adjust it
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2006, 09:17:34 PM »
Uhm,? why not just turn that little screw that adjusts the trigger sear on the lock?
 There is a little spring held screw that adjusts how far the trigger sear sets in the tumbler inside the lock it's self.

 The hard part about this simple adjusment.(oxymoron!) Is that the lock needs to be removed and the screw adusted each tyme you want to make a change.(or untill ya figure out how to push the trigger sear while the lock is in your hands:) )
 this little screw will move the depth that the trigger sear  "seats"  into the tumbler cam slot. If pushed too far, you will lose the half cock saftey ability of the lock,,if it's set too far back,,you'll get a heavy trigger pull.
 The PITA of this traditions/cva adjusment is that it will change during shippment or transport or temperature changes. It's just one of those things a feller needs to keep on top of. a constant adjustment. well good luck
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Re: traditions single trigger how can I adjust it
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2006, 09:33:42 PM »
Some metals are hardened after being formed.  If you take off that hardened metal, you will have problems unless the metal is rehardened.C F

whaa? an cptch too?? cheech, the guy just asked about a trigger adjustment..wow you guys',,
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Re: traditions single trigger how can I adjust it
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2006, 04:39:21 AM »
 well lostid because some of the tumblers  dont carry that screw .
 also adjusting the screw may give lighter trigger pull.  but cleaning up the lock  . Doing a little tuning and then adjusting the screw  if still needed  will give a better trigger  pull   with the added benefit of  deeper engagement of the sear to the tumbler..

  While  using this screw can  achieve  a lighter trigger ,  to much adjustment  will cause  damage ..
  There is a reason why the high dollar locks do not have this screw .
1) its not needed  to properly adjust trigger pull .
2)  its to easy for a person  who doesn’t know what they are doing ,to  make adjustments that  will either damage the lock or  create a potentially dangerous safety issue   

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Re: traditions single trigger how can I adjust it
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2006, 03:09:09 PM »
Your right captchee, I mean no disrespect.
 But. Traditions is still selling that lock. and there are a million that have been made. and it ain't a high dollar lock.
 At least Traditions is setting the screw way back for new purchases. It's still there though. and folks will mess with it,,Maybe,,we can enlighten new purchasers to the proper use and adjustment,?,,?

 I think I said if pushed too far the "saftey ability of the lock" will be lost?? That is NOT a desirable aspect of this set screw! Yet it is the "trigger" weight or "pull" adjustment of this style gun. :-[ ???
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Re: traditions single trigger how can I adjust it
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2006, 03:21:44 PM »


 you are most correct  .
 unfortunately we live in an age of lawsuits and deep pockets  LMAO of which i don’t have .
 the only draw back of these locks  that i know of is a weak main springs and soft parts .

 with proper honing there really is no need for the screw ..
 If one was to inlet the trigger to the proper depth , IE  so it just rested on the sear arm when the lock was at full cock .
 The lock disassembled and honed the a good shine , . tumbler polish  and full cock  filed and honed to the proper angle , sear de burred and polished  .
All of this would allow the sear to set safely , strongly and solid in the full cock notch 

 The traditions locks would be smooth  and have a light trigger pull.. That would last for a life time , well  excluding the main spring .

 My take is that the small adjustment screw  was placed here for the general public and is a quick fix . Sure it works  but IMO not the best option