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Offline rimfire

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Single Six Hunter Accuracy
« on: October 02, 2006, 04:40:04 AM »
Guys and Gals,

I need some opinions/advice.

Purchased one of the 7.5" Hunter Single Six .22LR/.22Mag revolvers.  It will be a great practice gun for handgun hunting with my big bore revolvers, but I am not thrilled with the accuracy from a bench.  Scoped the best I can do is about 1.5" at 25 yards with a 2x Leupold and the 7 kinds of ammo I tried.  I even tried cleaning between ammo types as shooting multiple groups with the same ammo as I have heard that rimfires can be sensitive to bore coating of the specific ammo.

The .22Mag is absolutely awful...best 25 yards group was 4.5" sandbagged with a scope.  I am a decent shot with handguns and can frequently do metter than this with a lot of my other handguns. 

I am considering the following options for possible improvement.

recrown
lengthen and more gradual taper to barrel forcing cone
check and recut cylinder holes to consistent diamter
trigger job
skeltonize/lighten hammer to decrease lock time

Any additional ideas or comments on my thoughts?

Thanks.
Be honest with yourself.  Can you guarantee you would hit a paper plate at 250 yards...100 yards...50 yards?  Then you have no business replacing the plate with a live animal.

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Re: Single Six Hunter Accuracy
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2006, 03:23:11 AM »
You may want to call Ruger first. They may be able to take care of it.
I have a Single Six that I wasn't thrilled with. I recut the barrel forcing cone, replaced springs, did a trigger job, put in a Belt Mountain cylinder base pin and then proceeded to break it in. I used high speed ammo to help smooth out the barrel. It is now nicely accurate. I need to try it with .22 mag and see if that has improved also.
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Re: Single Six Hunter Accuracy
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2006, 06:49:10 AM »
Do the Single Sixes take the same base pin as the blackhawks?

What angle did you cut the forcing cone to?
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Re: Single Six Hunter Accuracy
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2006, 07:55:37 AM »
The Single Six takes a shorter base pin than the Blackhawk. They are available from Brownell's or directly from Belt Mountain.
http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/productdetail.aspx?p=1874&s=7305

The reamer is 11 degrees. Here it is in Brownell's http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/productdetail.aspx?p=532&s=2237

I took my Single Six out last night and put some Win .22 mag ammo through it. I had scrubbed the barrel and forcing cone. It worked fine. I put 50 rds. through it. I am going to put more through it to help smooth it out some more. I will clean it tonight and take it out again on Sat.
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Re: Single Six Hunter Accuracy
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2006, 11:47:05 AM »
I would definitely call Ruger, I bet they will make it right, their customer service is great.  I have two single sixs both 5.5 one blue, one stainless both shoot into  about 1.5 inches with iron sights with either good Long Rifle or Magnum.  I don't have a scope on either so I don't know what they are truly capable of.  I would think the Hunter should be much better.  I almost traded my stainless for a hunter but decided I liked the 5.5 better as I thought it would be handier, sounds like I made a good decision, if yours is representative, let us know how this turns out.

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Re: Single Six Hunter Accuracy
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2006, 03:16:11 AM »
In the past, Ruger’s forged barrels have had a rep for being somewhat rougher than their round barrels. This could easily be the case here. You may want to just clean it thoroughly and try the .22 mag again. See how it does. Then keep shooting it with the .22 mag to smooth and break in the bore. It will probably get better with age. You will be able to feel the increased smoothness of the bore when you clean it.
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Re: Single Six Hunter Accuracy
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2006, 11:19:07 AM »
two things...

Shot Winchester Supreme .22 mag ammo this weekend...groups right at 2" for 6 shots...big improvement...and I noticed the 22LR semed to be a little better with all ammo, or I have gotten more used to the horrible trigger.  I feel much better about the gun right now.

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Re: Single Six Hunter Accuracy
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2006, 08:35:39 PM »
The rugers are not known for their accuracy with high dollar ammo or with the cheap stuff.  Most take a moderately priced .22 ammo and do fine.  A buddy has a single six with 9" barrel.  His gun likes Winchester t22 or CCI greentag.  My single six likes CCI mini mag hollow points and PMC Zapper in orange box.  We both shoot sillywet.  Both of these guns shoot about 1" groups at 50.  Unfortunately beyond 50 is when the groups begin to exponentially expand.

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Re: Single Six Hunter Accuracy
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2006, 01:09:27 PM »
The beartooth bullets guy Marshall wrote a technical manual about how to achieve good results with cast bullets.  In the manual section on fire lapping, he covers how to fire lap a rimfire and describes the results he got firelapping a single six.  He cleaned it and shot a group every cylinderful.  After I forget how many rounds the groups went from terrible (can't remember how bad but like 3 to 4 inches) to an inch.  If the gun isn't accurate enough to hit a squirrel in the head at 30 yards what fun is it.

If you are interested I'll pull the manual and review it.

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Re: Single Six Hunter Accuracy
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2006, 03:26:18 PM »
Good luck with it, it's a nice gun for sure -- Fun for plinking too, and cheap.
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